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09-28-2014, 01:39 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Cleburne TX
Posts: 692
Year: 2001
Chassis: International Amtran RE
Engine: DT466E/MD3060
Rated Cap: 78
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Toilet shower combo
I am about to make some more steps on my bus conversions…. FINALLY.
I do have a questions for those who have converted or done it many times. I have a standard RV toiler I have not installed. I am wanting to put the toilet in the shower stall to reduce the need for a separate spaces for each of them. I don't think the shower will be used a great deal but want it there if the need comes up.
My question is can I use this standard rv toilet in a shower enclosure? I would seal it up at the base. I don't think it would hurt for water to get on the exterior of the toilet.
I am planning on only a black tanks for waste collection.
If anyone has pros and cons to this setup. Any other advise would be greatly appreciated.
Bapos
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09-28-2014, 02:10 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 163
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Re: Toilet shower combo
It seems like a good solution on paper but everyone I know with one hates it. Floor is always wet. Usually too cramped overall. No dry space to dress after the shower.
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09-28-2014, 02:14 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Roswell, NM
Posts: 3,588
Year: 1986
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: 40 ft All American FE
Engine: 8.2LTA Fuel Pincher DD V8
Rated Cap: 89
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Re: Toilet shower combo
Let's not forget that all the metal parts (springs, metal levers, metal plates, etc) will all rust. And it will be cheaper to buy a new toilet than replace all those parts. I know this from experience. Also the floor is either wet, muddy or has dried mud on it. Might work okay for a weekend, but fulltiming with a "wet bath" sucks mud!
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09-28-2014, 02:25 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Cleburne TX
Posts: 692
Year: 2001
Chassis: International Amtran RE
Engine: DT466E/MD3060
Rated Cap: 78
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Re: Toilet shower combo
This is only a weekend/tailgate rig …. no full time.
I can sell the toilet I would imagine. Its a high end unit I bought from a member here that has never been used.
I wonder if what Im trying to do is worth the space savings. I don't think the shower will be used much to be honest. I would say on rare occasions
Thanks for your input
Bapos
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09-28-2014, 03:12 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,359
Year: 1993
Coachwork: bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins, Allison AT1545
Rated Cap: 2
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Re: Toilet shower combo
too soon for me to comment on the success of my shower/toilet combination.... it has been a difficult build. and im not done yet.
my toilet works fine and is functional. the base that it sits on is not water tight, i havent finished or caulked in there yet so it still may be when im done. i just know it isnt now. if i fill the shower base with water.... it weeps a bit through the cement epoxy that is reinforcing the toilet hole. i am hopeful it will seal.
more of my bath issue is with the walls matching my shower base. i regret not using the schlute kerdi system advised by Natster. if and when i do-over.... i will use a 1 piece shower unit or the schlute water proofing system and tile. in order to limit the number of water seams.
my project is still under construction....i hope to shower in the bus in the next month or so... fingers crossed.
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09-28-2014, 03:52 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 163
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Re: Toilet shower combo
Most people I see use their shower as the back closet or wet storage for all the beach toys most of the time.
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09-28-2014, 07:27 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,231
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Re: Toilet shower combo
Hey Bapos. I used a combo bath/sink/shower in my little skoolie. The whole thing fits in a 4' X 4' space which would have been standard in the 70's and 80's motor homes. I did drop the floor 7" to get a true stand up shower and if one weighs more than my 175# it could be a little tight. Wiping down the shower stall has been a life long habit with my family and eliminates the possibility of breathing mold and fungus spores which abound in moist habitats. I'm just now beginning to use my skoolie but so far so good! Jack
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09-29-2014, 08:29 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Landlocked... for now.
Posts: 285
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Re: Toilet shower combo
I have one in the RV. I hate it. Really hate it. The only time I don't mind it is those times I'm throwing up and can't move after heaving all my guts out. And it makes up for not having a bidet attachment. TMI? Naaaaaahhhhhhhhh. :P
I keep finding rocks and leaves on the shower floor and I forget to look down and clean it out before I snag a shower. Ow feet ow feet ow feet. Rocks and leaves seem to really like my boots. And the all-in-one itself is biscuit colour so I never know if I've got it clean or not (on the other hand, I don't wallop my head on the walls since I can SEE THEM, unlike Mum's SNOWWHITEOHMYEYESBLINDING shower surround). And if the plastic cracks I can't just get a new one and chuck the old since it's so big and unwieldy. My toilet is broken again (the flappy thinger at the bottom won't close all the way so I'm having to dump my black tank WAY more often to keep smells down).
I'm planning on keeping my water closet and bathtub (okay, so it's a 75gal Aquaponics tub) separate in the bus.
It's okaaaaaay in the short run, but if I had to choose between an all-in-one and being forced to use an unknown quality bathhouse you can bet your next meal I'm using a daisy rigged outdoor shower.
(I actually used to 'sneak' into my sister's house and use her shower in the winter time, because, dude, sometimes I had ICE in my shower and yee gods no I ain't doing that).
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10-01-2014, 07:23 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
Posts: 1,793
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: B3800 Short bus
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 36
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Re: Toilet shower combo
I've dealt with all-in-one shower/toilet combos around the globe and my only gripe is with wet toilet seats. It's easy enough to to wipe the floor with the towel when your done. If you can find a way to get keep the toilet dry you'll be laughing. I will have such a system; essentially an awning for the toilet.
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10-01-2014, 09:42 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Roswell, NM
Posts: 3,588
Year: 1986
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: 40 ft All American FE
Engine: 8.2LTA Fuel Pincher DD V8
Rated Cap: 89
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Re: Toilet shower combo
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Originally Posted by jazty
... my only gripe is with wet toilet seats...
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Gee, you mean you don't like sitting down in the middle of the night only to discover the toilet seat is still wet from someone's shower? And girls always have to sit down. Yuk! wet tuches in the middle of the night! Even worse is when it's winter!
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10-02-2014, 08:23 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
Posts: 1,793
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: B3800 Short bus
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 36
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Re: Toilet shower combo
Yep, no fun! But with proper design that situation can be easily avoided.
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10-03-2014, 06:53 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Cleburne TX
Posts: 692
Year: 2001
Chassis: International Amtran RE
Engine: DT466E/MD3060
Rated Cap: 78
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Re: Toilet shower combo
Any thing you guys would do different now that you have had it in… other than those who have ones and don't like them?
I like the space saving design and don't really think my shower will be used much so we seat won't be a huge issue over all. Just trying to decide if this is the route I want to go
Bapos
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10-03-2014, 08:34 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Landlocked... for now.
Posts: 285
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Re: Toilet shower combo
Quote:
Originally Posted by bapos
Any thing you guys would do different now that you have had it in… other than those who have ones and don't like them?
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I would make it longer so the toilet doesn't get as wet. Other than that I do like my combi, just not in the winter.
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'Tace
Dog is my copilot. As I have no dog, I have no flight plan.
"If all porkchops were perfect, we wouldn't have hotdogs!" -Steven Universe
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10-03-2014, 05:41 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Roswell, NM
Posts: 3,588
Year: 1986
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: 40 ft All American FE
Engine: 8.2LTA Fuel Pincher DD V8
Rated Cap: 89
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Re: Toilet shower combo
Quote:
Originally Posted by jazty
Yep, no fun! But with proper design that situation can be easily avoided.
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Don't you mean "operation"?
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10-03-2014, 05:47 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
Posts: 1,793
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: B3800 Short bus
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 36
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Re: Toilet shower combo
Nope.. I mean what I said. Us skoolie folk are most likely building our toilet+shower combos from scratch. Design the problem away. I have my plans all set out so that my sitting area stays perfectly dry. As I previously mentioned, I'll be creating a sort of toilet "awning" that opens, goes over the toilet and secures to the base. There will be gutters below the edges of the awning and around to direct the drips from the walls down to the drain. Toilet seat stays dry and a towel or clothing can be stashed in there. Use your imagination!
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10-04-2014, 09:13 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Roswell, NM
Posts: 3,588
Year: 1986
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: 40 ft All American FE
Engine: 8.2LTA Fuel Pincher DD V8
Rated Cap: 89
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Re: Toilet shower combo
Quote:
Originally Posted by jazty
Use your imagination!
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I did!
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10-04-2014, 03:01 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Farmington Hills, Mi (Detroit area)
Posts: 1,968
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Eldorado Aerotech 24'
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Re: Toilet shower combo
Quote:
Originally Posted by lornaschinske
Quote:
Originally Posted by jazty
Use your imagination!
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I did!
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How about a heavy duty trash bag cut down to fit over the toilet. Quick and easy.
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