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Old 03-31-2014, 11:47 AM   #1
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Air Ride anyone?

Just brainstorming, wanted to know if anyone has converted their skoolie from springs to air ride?

If so, how much did it cost?
How intense is the labor?
What is the maintenance like?
Was it worth the time and money spent?

I saw a show where guys put an air ride suspension in an older lincoln continental, wondered if we could do it on our skoolies?

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Old 03-31-2014, 08:52 PM   #2
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Just brainstorming, wanted to know if anyone has converted their skoolie from springs to air ride?

If so, how much did it cost?
How intense is the labor?
What is the maintenance like?
Was it worth the time and money spent?

I saw a show where guys put an air ride suspension in an older lincoln continental, wondered if we could do it on our skoolies?

-Doc
Yes and no.

All you need is the parts from a medium duty truck with the same rear axle. I found the parts for around $500 plus new bags at a big truck wrecker. I haven't installed it yet, but will be.

Front full air ride new is $7000. Removing a few leaf's to soften the ride, then adding a few bags is cheap. Bags run around $200 each.

It will be waaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy worth it. I miss the international MDT I used to drive with air ride. Long wheel base, low center of gravity, and air ride, I could drive over 200 kmh comfortably.

When I do my conversion, I will do a right up in the "How to" section with tons of pics.

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Old 03-31-2014, 11:20 PM   #3
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Yes and no.

All you need is the parts from a medium duty truck with the same rear axle. I found the parts for around $500 plus new bags at a big truck wrecker. I haven't installed it yet, but will be.

Front full air ride new is $7000. Removing a few leaf's to soften the ride, then adding a few bags is cheap. Bags run around $200 each.

It will be waaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy worth it. I miss the international MDT I used to drive with air ride. Long wheel base, low center of gravity, and air ride, I could drive over 200 kmh comfortably.

When I do my conversion, I will do a right up in the "How to" section with tons of pics.

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I would like to see it. I want to tile my shower but think the springs are too rigid of a ride. Do you think air ride would be able to keep the tile from cracking out? It would be the floor. The sides would be some sort of vinyl or shower board as it seems to be a bit impractical to keep those attached even if mastic was used, the grout would crumble out I'm sure.

And you're positive it would require a full axle replace? No way to manufacture a bracket on the current one?

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Old 04-01-2014, 12:21 AM   #4
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I would like to see it. I want to tile my shower but think the springs are too rigid of a ride. Do you think air ride would be able to keep the tile from cracking out? It would be the floor. The sides would be some sort of vinyl or shower board as it seems to be a bit impractical to keep those attached even if mastic was used, the grout would crumble out I'm sure.

And you're positive it would require a full axle replace? No way to manufacture a bracket on the current one?

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The tiling system in the link below will weigh the same or less than a FRP shower, due to no plywood. The fiberglass reinforced rigid Styrofoam sheets are 1/2" thick, and replace the plywood substrait. Unlike setting tile onto rigid plywood that transfers the vibrations, the Schluter KERDI-BOARD won't transfer any of this harmful motion to the tile. Also due to the lack of wood, you will never have a mold issue should a leak manage to get passed the water proof membrane.
Corner grout is protected by profile corner pieces that absorb the movement.
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=& ... 4pvjlRE0aQ

No need for a new rear axle, your bus already has a medium duty truck axle. All you need is the s spring, brackets to attach to the frame, and the piece the air bags mount onto.

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Old 04-01-2014, 12:28 AM   #5
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This guy Rooster Booster built himself a truck from a old U-Haul truck. It had factory air ride on the rear.
He built a air ride system for his new Diamond T cab and custom built aluminum sleeper. Pics of that set up are in this thread.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/tow-rigs ... truck.html

Get something to munch on, and something to drink. That thread is a long, interesting read.

Here are some pics I found on google of a few common systems.

This one uses the spring under the axle.




This is the one I have. Spring go's over the axle.



I searched "rear mdt air ride", then clicked on images. I encourage you to do the same to view the hundreds of pics of various systems.

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This is a good read. Here Rooster Booster is discussing the pro's and con's to various air ride systems. This was before he built the Diamond T.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/tow-rigs ... nsion.html

And one more with lots of pics.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/tow-rigs ... ete-4.html

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Sweet! I am off today and its rainy out so I have the perfect day to read!! Thanks Nat.
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All the school district mechanics I have talked to say they tend to ride worse than springs. Go for it.....
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All the school district mechanics I have talked to say they tend to ride worse than springs. Go for it.....

they say that the air ride tends to ride worse? If so why would you encourage someone to do it anyway?
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they say that the air ride tends to ride worse? If so why would you encourage someone to do it anyway?
That is what I was told when I contemplated looking for one.

People like to spend lots of money on conversations, regardless if they make sense. Not implying this is the case here, speaking in general terms.
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