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Old 08-04-2016, 10:27 AM   #1
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Alternative to rivets

After a search returned a gazillion posts I couldn’t find the answer.


Can screws and / or nuts & bolts be used in place of rivets?


While I am still in the fantasy stages of building my skoolie, I have run numerous scenarios in my head.They all require some sort of fastener to hold things together.While I have no aversion to rivets, I lack someone to work (buck?) the other side of the rivet.

Can a quality sheet metal screw, possibly stainless, along with Loctite or epoxy be used as an adequate substitution to a rivet? Has anyone used gasketed screws used on metal roofs?

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Old 08-04-2016, 10:41 AM   #2
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The biggest advantage of properly installed rivets over screws (beyond the fact they can't back out) is that they expand in the hole and provide direct transfer of loads. In effect...there is no "hole". The material acts pretty much as if it were still solid. That is why rivets (hot bucked) are used on truck frames and steel framed buildings.

Really no comparison between the two.
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Old 08-04-2016, 12:32 PM   #3
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I'm a ways off but i was planning on using 1/4 steel pop rivets. How do these compare strength wise to bucked rivets?
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Old 08-04-2016, 12:56 PM   #4
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I'm a ways off but i was planning on using 1/4 steel pop rivets. How do these compare strength wise to bucked rivets?
I'll be using blind, closed-end 1/4" pop rivets.
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Old 08-04-2016, 01:36 PM   #5
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No comparison between "pop" & hit bucked but for sheet metal, properly set poppers in the correct metal are typically stronger than the surrounding material. Just make sure to get the right size (diameter & length) so that they pull up with the correct amount of expansion. Best bet is to check with the manufacturer and tell them what you are working with.
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Old 08-04-2016, 08:28 PM   #6
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Another alternative is adhesives: No Weld Panel Adhesive Replacement

I have not tried this yet, but only because I haven't had the time.
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my bus has screws, so i used screws.
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Old 08-04-2016, 11:10 PM   #8
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I love the idea of replacing all the rivets. I'm just not convinced it's the best option. Besides, I already have too many loose screws.
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Old 08-09-2016, 09:29 AM   #9
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Our first bus (that my dad built) was sheeted over using screws as fasteners. They've acquired a little rust over the last 35 years but they look ok and we've never had any problem with them. That being said, I think the wife and I are leaning towards bucked rivets for the new bus. Pics when I get home.

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my bus is 25 years old and ALL of the interior panels are secured by star screws.. I found only a missing screw or two so they must hold well as none backed out ...

on the outside the body panels are riveted on..

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