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Old 06-20-2018, 01:28 PM   #1
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Bolt-Down Help

As I've mentioned in other threads, I'm a total novice. At EVERYTHING bus related. I feel kinda dopey coming on here all the time and asking obvious questions, but I don't know how else to figure this stuff out.

I plan to bolt down all the furniture I put into the bus - this seems like a no brainer to me. But whenever I look at tutorials and so forth, they mostly skip over the details of this part. I don't have a clue how to bolt down my furniture. Is there any way someone/everyone could post a very specific, detailed explanation of how you accomplished this part? The more specific the better, as in, if you say you drilled a hole, can you specify what size/type of bit you used to do it? I jsut need as much info as I can get, and I'm thinking some other might benefit from this, too.

I am using existing furniture chosen for both aesthetic and practical reasons rather than stuff built FOR the bus, so I need to know how/where to attach these pieces.

I had thought about using the original holes where the seat bolts were located to run bolts up through my insulation, plywood, and vinyl flooring up into the furniture, figuring that would be easier than creating new holes. But that won't work everywhere because the holes don't really line up with exactly where I need things to go.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.
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Old 06-20-2018, 01:48 PM   #2
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how to bolt stuff down....

I have some questions for you first....

Do you have a 3/8" drill? battery operated or pug into a wall ?

do you have drill bits? -- If yes, please post a close up shot of the drill bits.

Crappy drill bits are not going to last long. A 1/2" diameter bolt is going to overkill in a lot of cases. 1/4" bolt probably not enough in most cases. A 3/8" bolt is a good size, kinda oversized but three or four will hold a lot of force in the event of a rollover/wreck.
use a 7/16" diameter bit for 3/8" holes. Find a drill bit the has three flat sides on the part you stick into the drill. I believe a brand called "IRWIN" will do this.

Pic the first piece you want bolted down and get some photos of the parts that touch the floor and let us see what we are working with. Then we can go on to the next step.

I will try to give you a step by step guide to the bolting and fastening of things to other things for the complete idiot... This is not meant to be mean spirited... Look up something called "the idiots guide" it is about how to work on you air cooled volkswagen beeltle, first published in 1967, I think by John Muir. Very well written guide. has been in print every year since. the first few years were spiral bound note books with very very cool art work.

your turn...

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Old 06-20-2018, 01:51 PM   #3
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Appliances with height adjustable feet can use an anti-tip bracket. Anything with wood legs can be drilled and tapped for adjustable feet and then anti-tip bracket secured. Post some pics of the furniture so we can see exactly what you're dealing with.
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Old 06-20-2018, 01:57 PM   #4
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I have some questions for you first....

Do you have a 3/8" drill? battery operated or pug into a wall ?
Yes, I have a battery operated 3/8 drill.

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do you have drill bits? -- If yes, please post a close up shot of the drill bits.
I have more drill bits than you could possibly imagine. In my business selling vintage and antique stuff I have acquired necessary tools for working with furniture and also with masonry/glass, but I also fairly recently bought the estate of a high school shop teacher. Let me tell you, the man had BITS. But more to the point, I'm willing to acquire whatever bits I need to do whatever I need to do.

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Pic the first piece you want bolted down and get some photos of the parts that touch the floor and let us see what we are working with. Then we can go on to the next step.
I will get some shots of the pieces that are going in, and post those by tomorrow.

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I will try to give you a step by step guide to the bolting and fastening of things to other things for the complete idiot... This is not meant to be mean spirited...
The Idiot's Guide is EXACTLY what I need. Thanks for the info and I will return with photos.
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Old 06-21-2018, 11:45 AM   #5
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bolting down stuff

I will do what I can to help.

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Old 06-21-2018, 12:07 PM   #6
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Most of the brackets you will need are readily available most anywhere. Failing that, you can make your own to suit your situation. Your own confidence will grow and the help is here on this site for sure.


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Old 06-21-2018, 06:42 PM   #7
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ok...i know this will never pass either osha or my mother's approval, but this is my solution...as already stated, your solution depends upon the design of your seating...i purchased an ikea sofa, found a pipe holder, used half that fit over the horizontal frame, inserted a piece of rubber for tension, and screwed it down through 1/4" rubber flooring, 3/4" marine ply, and the steel floor...could have bolted it, but it's not going anywhere unless during a rollover...in which case everything will go anywhere quickly...again it depends on your specific case.


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ok...i know this will never pass either osha or my mother's approval, but this is my solution...as already stated, your solution depends upon the design of your seating...i purchased an ikea sofa, found a pipe holder, used half that fit over the horizontal frame, inserted a piece of rubber for tension, and screwed it down through 1/4" rubber flooring, 3/4" marine ply, and the steel floor...could have bolted it, but it's not going anywhere unless during a rollover...in which case everything will go anywhere quickly...again it depends on your specific case.


You mean everything will go anywhere quickly because you have done the job poorly at best, why bother. Your method is only as strong as the wimpy screws you used. In a front end collision all your furniture is going to be in your lap in the front seat. If you had a 2" steel plate under the floor that the BOLTS should go through, in an accident you're pulling that spread out area and not just the screw diameter.
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Old 06-21-2018, 07:18 PM   #9
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You mean everything will go anywhere quickly because you have done the job poorly at best, why bother. Your method is only as strong as the wimpy screws you used. In a front end collision all your furniture is going to be in your lap in the front seat. If you had a 2" steel plate under the floor that the BOLTS should go through, in an accident you're pulling that spread out area and not just the screw diameter.
well, there you go...you solved his problem.
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Old 06-22-2018, 01:51 PM   #10
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As an added benefit, a 2" steel plate bolted to the undercarriage should provide good protection against roadside IEDs.
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