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Old 10-30-2016, 11:33 AM   #21
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What sort of insulation might be in the roof of my 1998 AmTran?
I thump the ceiling with my fist and the thud tells mee it is full of something.
Cheap, thin fiberglass batting.
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Old 11-02-2016, 02:51 PM   #22
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How similar is the ceiling setup on a Prevost? I am bidding on a job to redo the headliner and all I can see is vinyl, foam, aluminum sheet, and nothing else. Im wondering if the aluminum sheet was used as the backing substrate which would then be fastened to the gussets.?.?.? Thanks in advance.
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Old 11-02-2016, 04:10 PM   #23
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Don't forget to add in the R-Value of mold.
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Old 11-02-2016, 04:30 PM   #24
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Make sure your spray foam methods are compatible with galvanized sheetmetal or black sheet steel before you go that route.
There was a post on here awhile back that said the great stuff foam ends up eating the metal.
I know the commercial grade stuff that you can pay someone to spray is compatible with galvanized and raw/black steel but the DIY stuff? I have no clue about?
As far as the necessity of removing everything and upgrading the insulation really depends on what your plans and purposes are for your bus. If you plan on camping,living or visiting cold climates then yes at least for me it would be necessary but kind of pointless if you don't cover over and remove most of the windows.
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Old 11-03-2016, 04:07 PM   #25
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Can anyone point me to more threads about ceiling work? Why do we want to remove the inner shell? Is it for thermal/leak reasons or other reasons.. We are trying to figure out plans right now and just got our bus so any input is helpful. Anyone that knows about what to remove for flooring would be appreciated also. At the back of our bus, the black part has a 4 inch crack in it, but I am unsure if that part is removed or just built over the top.
Not all of us remove the inner shell but if you have any leaks whatsoever, which you won't discover until you remove the inner shell, all that fiberglass is a good home for mold and other nasty stuff. Mine was leak free until I pushed on the escape hatch too hard. Now I have to remove a few panels, reseal, and reinsulate. I'd suggest at least taking a peak in a few areas to see what you're dealing with.

That being said, on my bus, I even left the walls. The fiberglass was brand new. I insulated over that and it's a lot toastier than it would have been had I taken all the fiberglass out. Keep in mind fiberglass holds water while foam insulation does not. Most folks switch over to foam regardless in hopes of preventing future issues caused by moisture. I lucked out. Did you?
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Old 11-08-2016, 08:23 AM   #26
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How tall are you people?!!? I didn't see anything in the sign up stuff saying this was a forum dedicated to hobbit skoolies.

Insulation = good.

Losing 3" floor and ceiling = deal breaker!!

Blue Bird's Vision Diesel and All American brochures say the buses have 77" of head room. I'm 74" on a good day. On a bad hair day, I'm 75". I barely have 3" total to lose and I'd rather not lose even that much.

The Thomas Saf-T-Liner says it's 78".

I want a non-short long bus; what are my options?
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Old 11-08-2016, 07:52 PM   #27
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How tall are you people?!!? I didn't see anything in the sign up stuff saying this was a forum dedicated to hobbit skoolies.

Insulation = good.

Losing 3" floor and ceiling = deal breaker!!

Blue Bird's Vision Diesel and All American brochures say the buses have 77" of head room. I'm 74" on a good day. On a bad hair day, I'm 75". I barely have 3" total to lose and I'd rather not lose even that much.

The Thomas Saf-T-Liner says it's 78".

I want a non-short long bus; what are my options?
Lots of folks opt for a roof-raise. Check out some of the conversion threads-MuddaEarth's is a good one that comes to mind.
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Old 12-01-2016, 07:30 PM   #28
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Lots of folks opt for a roof-raise. Check out some of the conversion threads-MuddaEarth's is a good one that comes to mind.
Thx!!! I got as far as post #43 now I'm up to video #8 of the build.
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Old 12-01-2016, 08:32 PM   #29
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Np. Glad you're enjoying! I really like his videos.
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Old 12-06-2016, 11:44 AM   #30
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Np. Glad you're enjoying! I really like his videos.
Finished up the read and the videos. Has anyone "lowered" the ceiling? I see the floors going up a 2x4, etc. for insulation. Is anyone doing the same for the ceilings (dropping them a 2x4, etc.)? What is the depth of the OEM ceiling? Some furring strips on the ribs to double up the insulation would be nice.
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