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Old 06-27-2017, 12:32 PM   #111
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Analog looks like it's my best bet
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Old 06-27-2017, 12:33 PM   #112
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All joking aside... I searched online and found some grid paper that were 40 long.
I measured the floor, and poof. I have a 35' bus with 29 usable at the floor and a couple more where the engine cover is in the back. I plan on the bed being headboard towards the driver's side... The old "seat" (engine cover) becoming a cabinet and laid out about 10 different iteration using just the blocks.
My final has the shower and toilet on the driver's side, the kitchen sink as well... All plumbing directly over the gray and black tanks. Still leaves plenty of room for a lounging area (in case of rain) just behind the cockpit


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Old 07-02-2017, 09:24 PM   #113
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Just getting started

This thread goes back to 2004!!!

Had to jump in on this one. In the early planning stages for a Thomas or Blue-Bird conversion. No idea when I can pick up a bus but wanted to work on SOMETHING, so I created a floor plan.

Let me know if you have any suggestions or advice.
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Old 07-05-2017, 07:51 AM   #114
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This thread goes back to 2004!!!

Had to jump in on this one. In the early planning stages for a Thomas or Blue-Bird conversion. No idea when I can pick up a bus but wanted to work on SOMETHING, so I created a floor plan.

Let me know if you have any suggestions or advice.
How much driving are you going to do? There's no co-pilot.

Not much in the way of storage. Aside from that, I like it.

What did you draw it in?
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Old 07-05-2017, 11:39 PM   #115
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How much driving are you going to do? There's no co-pilot.

Not much in the way of storage. Aside from that, I like it.

What did you draw it in?
Thanks!

My plan is to do a considerable amount of driving but I'm pretty solitary. No wife or girlfriend (confirmed bachelor) I do have two kids but I would be driving in any case. I've though about adding a co-pilot seat and moving the door. Putting the co-pilot on a swivel so it can double as a chair for the table. Again, these plans are extremely temporary.

As for storage, I'm working up a side-elevation for the interior to help figure out storage. Right now, I know there will be cabinets above the worksurfaces in the kitchen, some storage under the bed, hopefully more storage under the sofa. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I'm working in iDesign on my iPad. Once you figure out the interface, it's a pretty intuitive program.
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Old 07-05-2017, 11:52 PM   #116
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How do you like that Blue-Bird, Bob?
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Old 07-06-2017, 06:45 AM   #117
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Adobe Illustrator template 35' Bluebird FE TC2000

So, it's getting time to layout my build and I made this nifty Adobe Illustrator CS6 template- I thought others might like this tool. Use and enjoy.

Illustrator is wrong tool and does not like to be accurate, but can be forced. Everything is scaled so 1 pixel equals an inch- don't change that. Draw a cabinet 24 pixels by 12 pixels and its 2 feet by 1 foot.

Pixels are small, but Illustrator works in vectors, which are scalable without degradation. Use navigator to see details of your drawing on screen. When it comes time to print, don't change size of drawing, use print and scale print by 150% or whatever to fill paper.

There are rulers and grids to help see floor spacing. Layers utilized to reduce clutter on screen.

This is first iteration, so in infancy yet. If you add furniture or components, share them and this template can grow.

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Oh yeah, my bus is only 35 feet long, not 40'- which is a good thing for Nat'l Parks, bad for layout. More storage and details to come.
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Old 07-06-2017, 04:36 PM   #118
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Oh yeah, my bus is only 35 feet long, not 40'- which is a good thing for Nat'l Parks, bad for layout. More storage and details to come.
Noob here gathering loads of information about Skoolie's and life on the road. Do national parks/national park campgrounds have vehicle length limitations or something? Could you provide me with a website for additional information?

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Old 07-07-2017, 07:08 AM   #119
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How do you like that Blue-Bird, Bob?
Love it so far. But I would go for a MD3060 Allison tranny over an AT643. Two overdrive gears if you can get Allison to unlock the second.

If you are NOT doing a roof raise, take a look at the Thomas buses. Their walls slant inward from just below the windows. You can roof raise them below the windows but now you have a single break line with you cut the bus. The advantage is all of the ceiling panels are screws instead of rivets. I don't remember what Thomas has for drive line options other than Cats which are said to be expensive.
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Old 07-07-2017, 07:13 AM   #120
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Noob here gathering loads of information about Skoolie's and life on the road. Do national parks/national park campgrounds have vehicle length limitations or something? Could you provide me with a website for additional information?

Thanks!
I've heard the same. No idea if there's any truth to it. I doubt there's a hard fast rule that applies to every park. Some roads, some camper spots, etc sure. But no 40 footers? Phfft. The coaches are as much as 45 feet.
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