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Old 10-10-2014, 12:28 PM   #11
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Re: Home Built Slide Outs.

good luck and 3 more posts and they will be instant
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Old 10-10-2014, 03:52 PM   #12
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Re: Home Built Slide Outs.

You do know they make hard sided popups. Ours was pretty neat. Apache was the company. http://apachepopups.net/OldSite/manuals.htm has the manuals

This page has a good shot (#6) of the side walls opening while the top is being raised.


This is the parts manual all in pdf if you want to see how one was put together. The Chassis pics (last one in the manuals) should be pretty much all the old Solid State (hard sided) Apache. Liftsys has all the lift system which was a thick plastic chain that ran in a track that either lifted or lowered the "road cover" roof. http://apachepopups.net/OldSite/parts.h ... s%20manual

I'm sure someone could come up with a different (powered) lift system but still use hinged/roller hung sidewalls. Even the bed ends may be able to be built....

BTW, we rebuilt the "living hinge" by replacing the center hinge part with a length of pipe heater cable. It slipped into a C channel (think aluminum RV awning rail which is what we bought to replace a damaged section although we did have to very carefully squeeze the track a little tighter with a pair of vice grips to keep the track evenly closed). The end tracks the side walls hung in looked like a u channel with a closet door roller wheel. The road cover lifted slight above the side walls and once they were in place, was lowered back down to lock the walls into place. Like I said, it was a neat little system and very sturdy once put together correctly. The kids & I could set up in about 15 minutes.
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Old 10-22-2014, 11:09 PM   #13
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Re: Home Built Slide Outs.

On the subject of Apache pop-ups, I can attest to their durability.
Built in Lapeer, MI, they were remarkably lightweight, using ABS plastic extensively for the side panels, end panels and caps, and the roof/road cover.
ABS plastic repair/patching was easy to do, using ABS pellets dissolved in a jar of MEK. What these repairs lacked in appearance, they were easy to perform in most places, indoors or out.
We used an Apache as a kid, and my wife and I are now on our second Apache (used to have a '75 Mesa, and upgraded to a '78 Ramada when we had kids).
I'm sure that some of the design concepts would be applicable to a well thought-out skoolie mod...
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Old 04-21-2015, 05:49 PM   #14
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Back to the top for the new members.

Too bad this thread got cluttered with that pop up crap.

I started this thread to help folks build Real slide outs in their skoolies.

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Since you're bumping the thread, help shoot holes in an idea I had. I wasn't real thrilled with the amount of play I saw in some DIY systems (or even OEM ones) and was brainstorming ways to address it. What I was thinking was you could use square tubing as the horizontal/sliding support rails... but put them at 45-degrees so the corners were up/down/left/right. Then use V bearings as the rollers:

RWM Casters V-Groove Wheel with Straight Roller Bearing 700 lbs Capacity: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

The advantage to something like this is your mounting bracket would have a roller under the rail and another on top. If made in two pieces with bolts clamping them together (not tightly - just enough to apply a few pounds of pressure both top and bottom), you could have very little play in the system but high strength. Something like this although I'd adjust the layout of the rollers and the slide rail would be just square tubing, not this ornate extrusion:



I was thinking that a system like this would let you have some flexibility over the size and layout of your rails, and it might reduce the fab skills required to make such a system. I suspect you could even do it without welding and still be able to make a strong setup that resisted racking.
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Old 04-21-2015, 09:15 PM   #16
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Cool Man. Keep the good idea's coming.

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Old 09-22-2015, 11:23 PM   #17
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Not really instructional, but this guys youtube channel has about a half dozen videos showing his slide outs in action. Maybe it will help give people some ideas.
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This guy started a youtube video blog of an almost Nat_ster level of detail skoolie build, but seems to have fallen off in the past year. Myself, I wouldn't necessarily copy his method for a slide out since he notches the frame(!!!). But again, just might help give folks some ideas.


P.S.- I listened to his latest podcast and he talks about getting distracted by other projects and getting back to the bus. But he also mentions that he lost the footage of the roof raise. As of the last video, he was still working on the floor. So who knows what info will eventually end up being uploaded.
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I saw his roof raise. He used a Hi-Lift jack.
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Old 10-02-2015, 10:13 PM   #20
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Just in case anyone does not know better, notching a bus frame is a complete fail.

After doing so, the bus can no longer be driven, or registered / insured, and would need to be parted out / scrapped.

That is a big no no.

If he had taken 2.5 inches out of the center of the frame, that may have worked fine. Under no circumstances should the top or bottom flange of the c channel frame be cut or welded to.


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