Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 02-18-2006, 09:18 AM   #21
Bus Geek
 
lapeer20m's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: near flint michigan
Posts: 2,653
Quote:
Originally Posted by the_experience03
Is turning up that pump just a matter of adjusting the internal spring or what? .....
yes, simply tightening two pairs of springs inside the IP will increase the buses rpm. I do not know what redline is on the 6.6, and if your bus is like mine, it probably doesn't have a tach. But, you do probably have the same trans as my current bus, and we can find the rear gear ratio in the rear end. With that data, we can calculate the rpm of the engine.

with a 5.56? rear end and allison at545 my engine spins about 2700 rpm @65mph.

turning up the govenor is only a 10 minute project.......in theory!
__________________
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes (who will watch the watchmen?)
lapeer20m is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2006, 06:25 PM   #22
Bus Geek
 
the_experience03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Saint James, MN
Posts: 2,669
Send a message via MSN to the_experience03 Send a message via Yahoo to the_experience03
My bus DOES have a big, beautiful tach that lets me know that at 63 mph it's doing somewhere between 2500-2600 RPMs.

I need to do my fuel filters here shortly so I'll do the IP at that time too. However before I dig into that thing....how do you prime it when you're done? Does it have a petcock somewhere and then a plunger somewhere on the IP like some of the others I've seen? I'd go look for myself, but it's currently 60 miles away
__________________
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/...09f20d39_m.jpg
Skooling it...one state at a time...
the_experience03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2006, 06:56 PM   #23
Bus Geek
 
lapeer20m's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: near flint michigan
Posts: 2,653
not all engines come equipped with a primer pump.

make sure you fill the filters with diesel fuel before screwing them on.

Next, crack one of the injectors. Crank the engine with the injector nut loose until she fires. She'll prob be a little grouchy when she first starts up. Leave the injector nut loose until you see fuel spraying out of it. Then shut the motor off and tighten the nut.

IF you have a hand primer pump, then you prob won't have to crack the injector.

good luck
__________________
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes (who will watch the watchmen?)
lapeer20m is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2006, 11:16 AM   #24
Bus Nut
 
Roasting8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 382
Year: 1981
Coachwork: Crown
Chassis: Crown
Engine: 671 DD
Send a message via MSN to Roasting8 Send a message via Yahoo to Roasting8
I had to primer the pump when I ran out of fuel. What I did was build a hand pump (I followed the plans Frank from Idaho had), made from a garden sprayer, hooked it to the primary fuel filter, pumped the hand pump, and started the engine. After starting the engine I, stopped it, removed the hand pump, and started the engine back up.

The damned thing worked great (thanks Frank).

BTW, I have a 671 DD.

Robert
Roasting8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2006, 12:36 PM   #25
Bus Geek
 
lapeer20m's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: near flint michigan
Posts: 2,653
I installed a marine hand pump like you see on portable fuel tanks for a boat when i replaced my fuel line. This makes for easy priming.

My dt360 does not require an injector to be cracked once it runs out of fuel, but my 6.6 liter ford did.
__________________
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes (who will watch the watchmen?)
lapeer20m is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2006, 08:29 AM   #26
Bus Nut
 
Eric von Kleist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Grundy, Virginia
Posts: 632
Year: 1985
Coachwork: ThomasBuilt
Chassis: International Harvester S-1700
Engine: 9L IHC V-8 Diesel 180HP
Rated Cap: 60
My bus has a Sturdy brand "Road Speed Control and Engine Governor" on it. I want to take it off to free up space on the firewall. (It's a privately owned bus, not a school owned bus.) When I bought the bus, the mechanics at the yard removed some gears from one part of it and said that that would "disable" the speed controller. It looks as if the thing is hooked up to a whole bunch of stuff: throttle cable, transmission (?); speedo; lots of wires on it. Can I just take the thing off?

The bus is a 1985 Thomas-built IH S-1800 Chassis with 9.0 Liter engine and AT-545 tranny. The only identifying information on the speed controller is the company name and product description (above) and a date: Jun 18 1993. That's it. No model number, no serial number, nothing. The company's website has no useful information on the device (in its current iteration) that they sell. I have the contact # for the company, but I have the suspicion that they are not going to be too interested in providing customer service for old product.

Is this device the actual governor that keeps the engine from overspeeding? I thought that was mechanically controlled. If this is just a device to keep the road speed down, I don't need it, and I do need the space on the firewall for something else.
Eric von Kleist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2006, 02:41 PM   #27
Bus Geek
 
lapeer20m's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: near flint michigan
Posts: 2,653
It's not safe, but i used to use an alluminum rod that fit nicely between the dash and gas pedal to keep it all the way to the floor. I could tap the rod with my foot and it would fall off of the pedal when i needed to slow down.

My current bus has a hand throttle that i adjusted to keep the bus at 60mph...it needs to be adjusted again though...
__________________
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes (who will watch the watchmen?)
lapeer20m is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2006, 08:52 PM   #28
Bus Nut
 
Eric von Kleist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Grundy, Virginia
Posts: 632
Year: 1985
Coachwork: ThomasBuilt
Chassis: International Harvester S-1700
Engine: 9L IHC V-8 Diesel 180HP
Rated Cap: 60
I got hold of Jim Thornton at Sturdy Corporation, the company that manufactures the governor on my bus. He said that all I have to do is replace the throttle cable and then splice the red and light blue wires (ignition interrupt built into the system) together.

I'm confused: in the movies, cutting the Red Wire is a Bad Thing.
Eric von Kleist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2006, 09:23 PM   #29
Bus Nut
 
Roasting8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 382
Year: 1981
Coachwork: Crown
Chassis: Crown
Engine: 671 DD
Send a message via MSN to Roasting8 Send a message via Yahoo to Roasting8
It's depending on which movie. I thought you weren't suppose to cut the blue
Roasting8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2006, 08:14 AM   #30
Bus Nut
 
Eric von Kleist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Grundy, Virginia
Posts: 632
Year: 1985
Coachwork: ThomasBuilt
Chassis: International Harvester S-1700
Engine: 9L IHC V-8 Diesel 180HP
Rated Cap: 60
Even worse! He said to cut the Red Wire and the Blue Wire and splice them together!

This could lead to a complete anti-matter anhiliation of the bus. 17,000# of antimatter completely anhiliating is enough to propel the bus at 4 times light speed, and my tires are not rated for that kind of velocity.
Eric von Kleist is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
new to buses chev49 Everything Else | General Skoolie Discussions 1 07-13-2012 12:45 PM
Chevrolet/GMC ignition retarder/govenor Kirbystud Conversion General Discussions 12 07-26-2009 02:15 PM
Party Buses (In Buses In The News) lapeer20m Everything Else | General Skoolie Discussions 4 07-03-2008 03:43 PM
Buses buses, ya wanna know about buses ??? frank-id Everything Else | General Skoolie Discussions 0 10-20-2006 12:42 AM
Crown ??? Crown buses??? The best of all the school buses frank-id Conversion General Discussions 1 03-05-2006 04:30 PM

» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:49 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.