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Old 09-11-2015, 01:22 AM   #21
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Got the next panel off and there is an elaborate mouse nest in the insulation. Its an old bus but a great argument for the idea that it is always best to pull the panels.
Your mouse nest!


My first bus had a mouse problem. It had a hand painted sign above the front door that said "Have a mice day!".
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Old 09-11-2015, 03:17 AM   #22
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My first bus had a mouse problem. It had a hand painted sign above the front door that said "Have a mice day!".
I don't know to laugh or cringe. On the upside it was a good place for your pets to live that take up any floor space.
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Old 09-11-2015, 03:31 AM   #23
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I don't know to laugh or cringe. On the upside it was a good place for your pets to live that take up any floor space.
I should have added that the sign was painted on by the school who'd operated the bus, not me!
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OK ... we are all in agreement that all the panels have to come down and the old insulation must come out.

What about the next part ... what to put back. Going back to fiberglass is crazy.

I don't like the idea of Great Foam because it can hold water and cause steel to rust through.

There are a number of other Heat, vibration and sound barriers to choose from.

Spray-ons like Lizard skin are easy to install but very expensive.

Good peal and stick stuff is also a bit expensive.

I'm thinking about rigid foam insulation but am at a loss as to what adhesive will hold foam to steel

Suggestions will be appreciated.

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Old 09-11-2015, 05:12 PM   #25
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OK ... we are all in agreement that all the panels have to come down and the old insulation must come out.

What about the next part ... what to put back. Going back to fiberglass is crazy.

I don't like the idea of Great Foam because it can hold water and cause steel to rust through.

There are a number of other Heat, vibration and sound barriers to choose from.

Spray-ons like Lizard skin are easy to install but very expensive.

Good peal and stick stuff is also a bit expensive.

I'm thinking about rigid foam insulation but am at a loss as to what adhesive will hold foam to steel

Suggestions will be appreciated.

Thanks
I was considering using insulation I saw online that looks like a layer of foil on both sides of a layer of bubble wrap.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Insulation-D...item1e9d6f14ea
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Old 09-11-2015, 05:21 PM   #26
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I was considering using insulation I saw online that looks like a layer of foil on both sides of a layer of bubble wrap.

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That's ok for temporary use over windows and such, but isn't real insulation.
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Two part closed cell spray foam is not like the one part "Great Stuff".

It won't absorb and hold moisture unless submerged for long periods of time. It also won't rust the steel like the single part "Great Stuff".

Here on skoolie.net we have researched and discussed this topic over and over again.

Closed cell, two part spray foam in a two pound density is the best there is for a skoolie conversion.

Best insulation for the floor is the blue 300 psi high density rigid Styrofoam sheets.

All that bubble wrap, tin foil faced styrofaom, tin foil with fiberglass inside, and insulation paints are all a farce. Nothing more than snake oil marketing scams.

Like East Coast CB said. Foil bubble wrap is good to block sunlight coming through a window, but is not real insulation.

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Something Nat and I pretty much ALWAYS agree on is insulation.
Closed cell spray in or board is the only stuff I'd use. At all.
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Closed cell, two part spray foam in a two pound density is the best there is for a skoolie conversion.

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Can you share brand names and availability in the US?

Unfortunately, cost does enter into the discussion.

I own a short schoolie and need about 80 square feet of walls to cover.

Can this stuff be had under a buck per square foot?
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Unfortunately, cost does enter into the discussion
Cost weighs heavy on my mind as well, but since my goal is to tiny housify my bus and live in it, I guess I better not go cheap on crucial items like insulation.

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