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06-10-2019, 03:02 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 1
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It’s getting hot in here...
Hi all ,
I’m looking to put in a fan on the bus because it getting hot. I have a pre existing hole that’s 10 x 8 vent, no fan that I would like to replace with a vent fan, but the opening is too small for the standard ones I’m seeing. The space of framed out so I’m wonder what would be the best method that is cost effective. Would cutting through the framing damage the body?
Or if there another option that wouldn’t involve cutting through the metal framing?
It’s just hot and we need options that’s are low energy and cost efficient. Safety is also a thing so I’m hesitant about a window option.
So far we are looking at portable power stations to run the fan. 300 Watts 12V /24V DC
Here are a couple of pictures of what I’m working with. The first one if the opening from the inside and the second is the roof.
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06-10-2019, 03:19 PM
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#2
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Athens, TN
Posts: 1,574
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International RE
Engine: International T444e
Rated Cap: 76
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zelma
So far we are looking at portable power stations to run the fan. 300 Watts 12V /24V DC\
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300W seems like alot for what you're asking for.
I have a high speed AC floor fan running:
Usage without / with:
That's about 144w. On high. On AC, using my inverter.
If you can build something on the outside of the hole that makes it bug proof and rainproof, you could use a number of 12v computer fans to move the air. 200mm - 240mm is around the size you're looking for.
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06-10-2019, 05:23 PM
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#3
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,775
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MaxxAir or Fantastic Fan, do what it takes to install.
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06-10-2019, 05:46 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 41
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I’ve seen a couple where people bought a fan, and cut a plywood frame. Take off front fan cover, cut out hole size of fan, attach fan to plywood, attach plywood to ceiling. Maybe put a cover on it for when you’re not using it.
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06-10-2019, 05:50 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,831
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Minotour
Engine: Chevy Express 3500 6.6l
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I’ve been considering a swamp cooler plan. Window mounted, removable. For that, I was considering a radiator fan. This one here is about 60 Watts and moves 2350 CFM.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/prm-19120/
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06-10-2019, 06:31 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: E Central Tejas
Posts: 2,094
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: IH 3800, 8 window
Engine: T444E w/ Spicer 5-speed MT
Rated Cap: I prefer broad-brims hats
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Don't know where you reside, but unless you're in a semi-arid area with, at most, moderate humidity, the returns will be quite modest.
(Ya might consider filling in your user profile more fully...)
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Originally Posted by Danjo
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Not to be condescending, thought to mention you'll be loading the air with moisture, for later condensation...
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06-10-2019, 06:33 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by john61ct
MaxxAir or Fantastic Fan, do what it takes to install.
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One of the best, most essential upgrades ever!
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06-10-2019, 06:55 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,831
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Minotour
Engine: Chevy Express 3500 6.6l
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Quote:
Originally Posted by haz.matt.1960
Don't know where you reside, but unless you're in a semi-arid area with, at most, moderate humidity, the returns will be quite modest.
(Ya might consider filling in your user profile more fully...)Not to be condescending, thought to mention you'll be loading the air with moisture, for later condensation...
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Snowbirding to follow good weather, primarily in arid places is my plan! But good point about swamp coolers and humidity.
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06-10-2019, 07:05 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,831
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Minotour
Engine: Chevy Express 3500 6.6l
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Quote:
Originally Posted by john61ct
MaxxAir or Fantastic Fan, do what it takes to install.
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I like the idea of using the emergency roof hatch hole. Thanks for posting!
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06-10-2019, 07:10 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: E Central Tejas
Posts: 2,094
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: IH 3800, 8 window
Engine: T444E w/ Spicer 5-speed MT
Rated Cap: I prefer broad-brims hats
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Arid areas are where evaporative coolers rule! Majority of moisture will dissipate in the drier outside air, just open the windows when the Sun's setting and the world's starting to cool.
Exert your Goo-Fu on, homemade swamp cooler in a bucket, for an awesome solution/ application! Couldn't easily find the 1 I'd viewed b4, but they're all conceptually identical.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danjo
Snowbirding to follow good weather, primarily in arid places is my plan! But good point about swamp coolers and humidity.
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06-10-2019, 08:26 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danjo
I like the idea of using the emergency roof hatch hole. Thanks for posting!
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I used tinted Lexan to cover the hatch hole, then mounted the Maxxair fan in it.
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06-12-2019, 08:44 PM
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#12
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 1,413
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: CAT 3126
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Another vote for Fantastic fan. It will take a little work to cut the hole out bigger, but that's what I would do. And I think it is only 20-30 watts. They work great. Not really a substitute for AC though if it's super hot. Much better than stale air that isn't moving though.
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06-12-2019, 09:14 PM
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#13
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
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I find the Maxxaire and the Fantastic fans of equal quality and features. But when comparing apples to apples the Maxx is about 50% cheaper. Mine is 10 speeds, remote control, automatic rain censor.
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06-12-2019, 09:42 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 1,349
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Thomas 4 window w/lift
Chassis: G30~Chevy cutaway
Engine: 5.7/350 Chevy Vortec
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Mine is 10 speeds, remote control, automatic rain censor.
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Any link to the Maxx model you've got?
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06-12-2019, 09:46 PM
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#15
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peteg59
Any link to the Maxx model you've got?
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/MaxxFan-Plu...orig_cvip=true
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06-12-2019, 10:07 PM
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#16
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 1,349
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Thomas 4 window w/lift
Chassis: G30~Chevy cutaway
Engine: 5.7/350 Chevy Vortec
Rated Cap: Just me and my "stuff"?
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Thanx marc. Is it 14"x14"? (doesn't say in add)
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06-13-2019, 12:19 AM
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#17
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peteg59
Thanx marc. Is it 14"x14"? (doesn't say in add)
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You're right, surprisingly it doesn't give dimensions. But, yes, it is 14 x 14 standard vent size.
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06-13-2019, 04:17 AM
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#18
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
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I like this model, it has its own rain cover built it.
https://www.etrailer.com/RV-Vents-an...CABEgLIt_D_BwE
I don't see how Maxxair is "half the price". They're the more expensive of the two.
Comparing Fantastic and Maxxair, you can get a Fantastic vent about 20-40 cheaper.
https://www.etrailer.com/RV-Vents-an...iABEgKszvD_BwE
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06-29-2019, 09:51 PM
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#19
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New Member
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 2
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How does this look from inside the bus?
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06-29-2019, 10:19 PM
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#20
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
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Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
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You don't see it because you are comparing apples and oranges.
Pros and Cons
Maxxaire Fantastic
10speeds Remote Control 3speeds Manual control
Opening Vent Remote Control Manual Control
Automatic rain sensor closes lid when it rains Manual Control
Price $149 This one you win $119
For $30 more the Maxxaire is a much better deal. An equivalent fan to the Maxxaire from Fantastic would be around $280.
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