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Old 09-24-2016, 12:30 AM   #11
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Karma8282, Did you get your electrical set up on your bus? I'm new on this forum and look to convert my bus too. Been reading on the site for some guidance on the electrical. Today, I started removing the seats.

If you have completed your electrical, what components did you buy?
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Old 09-24-2016, 12:53 AM   #12
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Karma8282, Did you get your electrical set up on your bus? I'm new on this forum and look to convert my bus too. Been reading on the site for some guidance on the electrical. Today, I started removing the seats.

If you have completed your electrical, what components did you buy?
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:29 AM   #13
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I have my core electrical system mapped out.... bear in mind this is still just a draft, very much a work in progress, things may change.... that being said:



This is the electric panel I'll be using:

Parallax Power Supply 500-12P24 50 Amp Distribution Panel with LED
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Old 10-18-2016, 09:04 AM   #14
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I have my core electrical system mapped out.... bear in mind this is still just a draft, very much a work in progress, things may change.... that being said:



This is the electric panel I'll be using:

Parallax Power Supply 500-12P24 50 Amp Distribution Panel with LED
What brand of generator are you considering? I have been looking at the Onan, but sizing vs. weight and fuel is what I am debating. 10K is a big generator. Are you looking at LP gas or diesel? If LP gas, what size tanks are you carrying?
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I was looking at one from Home Depot but I would have some VERY annoyed neighbors if I ran that more than a short time a day. I like the Onan generators but way too much $$$ for me.

I can't remember if the HD one was gas or diesel but I liked it because it had a 50 amp outlet for me to plug my shore cable into... that way I wouldn't have to bother with a transfer switch.

Still weighing generator options, but for now just to keep a battery bank charged up for boondocking so a 3kw one will be enough.

Oh and no one can get the electric distribution panel I was after so it's back to the drawing board on that too.
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Old 10-18-2016, 10:19 PM   #16
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If your engine is diesel...a diesel genny is great...but expensive. Just wish someone made a small, quiet, reasonably priced model along the lines of what Honda & Yamaha have in gas.
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You can get this Briggs & Stratton 3000 watt model for just a little more than Honda 2000 watt models cost.

Briggs & Stratton 30545 P3000 PowerSmart Series Portable 3000-Watt Inverter Generator with (4) 120-Volt AC Outlets and (1) 12-Volt DC Outlet
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Old 10-18-2016, 10:49 PM   #18
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I was looking at one from Home Depot but I would have some VERY annoyed neighbors if I ran that more than a short time a day. I like the Onan generators but way too much $$$ for me.

I can't remember if the HD one was gas or diesel but I liked it because it had a 50 amp outlet for me to plug my shore cable into... that way I wouldn't have to bother with a transfer switch.

Still weighing generator options, but for now just to keep a battery bank charged up for boondocking so a 3kw one will be enough.

Oh and no one can get the electric distribution panel I was after so it's back to the drawing board on that too.
I use the propane powered units that hoe depot sells. its a better price on ebay or amazon with free shipping. Some where out of Florida. The only thing i ran into over the last 3 years is the pull start spring breaks. So pulled the pull start off and its a17 mm crank nut I think. I use my dealt screw gun to crank it up. Starts right away every time. Propane is the best gen fuel ever. Noting to gum out or dry out every year its like starting it for the first time. Propane is good for ever in a tank so there are no additives. Come back in 100 years start it up and binge watch yourself some net flix.

I install and do propane conversions on cars. A little trick to save a few hundred dollars is go to the big box store and buy a 100lb tank. Pull the valve out before filling the first time since its only full of air!!?? Some valves are set up for liquid or gas. your appliances run on GAS your car would run on liquid but your Gent set will probably be gas or vapor. untill you start to need more than 5 hp on a engine you can get enough vapor. Any how that's another topic. You want to pull your valve and if its threaded on the inside install a copper line to a fitting and give it a angel or ark up so when its tight its pointing up. the trick is just mark the valve in what direction the up is on the copper line.then when install the tank now from horizontal to vertical your still getting the vapor or gas at the top of the tank just like the valve did when it had no copper line and the tank was stood straight up. You can do the opposite if you want a liquid tank as well by making the tube suck off the bottom. Propane if you dont know is liquid in the tank so grabbing it at the top its just gas vapor. Most fork lift tanks have a liquid and vapor on the tank and flex hose inside with a weight on the end so it can be installed vertical or horizontal. The hose just fall into the liquid from gravity and the vapor connection is on the end at the top or if its standing up its on the top.
Or if you need liquid in a small car or engine just mount the tanks up side down like 20lb 5 gallon tank and now it runs liquid out the valve.
here is a video of a set up I build if you jump to about 8 mins you get to the tanks.
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Old 10-18-2016, 10:55 PM   #19
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If you buy propane from a distributor and not a gas station its usually half the cost of diesel. Its well worth it and so many things run on it and gas engines are so much more quite. One thing few people know is there is no fuel washing the oil off the cylinders. Propane is consider what is call a dry fuel. vapor only. So the engines seem to last much longer and oil changes can go many times farther. Spark plugs last at least twice as long. Platinum plugs may not actually were out I have some in the 200k range running around.
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100 lb tank eh? I bet that sucker is a pain to refill, especially if you have to remove it from the bus to take it somewhere. 70 lbs empty weight, plus another 100 for the propane.... I'd have to come up with some kind of lift mechanism to jack it up into place before securing it.

I'm trying to picture the process you spelled out to convert the tank from vertical to horizontal orientation... It seems like pulling the valve would void any warranty on the tank.... but anyway.....

If I'm picturing the process right, the copper line attached to the valve is INSIDE the tank, in the void space left after filling when the tank is flipped on its side. Do I have that about right?

What about thread sealant on the valve when it goes back in?

Does that change affect the operation of the OPD in the tank?

It sounds like this would be a real boon, not having to refill the propane nearly as often. Would also open up some more options for generators. But I want to do it properly, and SAFELY. Propane as you know is not to be trifled with and a mistake can be disastrous, if not outright fatal.
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