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Old 09-13-2015, 02:09 PM   #61
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And just to add a side note when I insured it the insurer only asked if the suspension had been modified, didn't seem to care much about the body
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Old 09-13-2015, 05:17 PM   #62
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I understand your concerns if I was trying to maintain the standards & Regs of a School Bus, I know I didn't take detailed pics & descriptions of all the work i did but I did have a friend of mine who is a Engineer who was involved with the design & building of Nuclear submarines & has been a Engineer for GE for years look at the work I did & he's happy with the mods I did as far as safety for driver & passenger goes, It's still more stout than a S&S .

I do respect a lot of what you offer Nat but if we're trying to maintain School Bus standards then we all should stop what we're doing.
Funny, I have a retired nasa guy helping with the planning on mine!
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Old 09-14-2015, 02:19 PM   #63
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Funny, I have a retired nasa guy helping with the planning on mine!
Ask him about the line of spaceships on the ridge that were watching MR Armstrong when he stepped onto the moon.

Most Engineers are cocky, over paid, useless people in my books.

Anyone with common seance, able to see three dimensionally, and the ability to research can do just as well without the ego.

So, everyone keep chest thumping about your engineer friends.

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Old 09-14-2015, 04:56 PM   #64
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My big wig engineer friend doesn't participate in any seances, nat.

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Should I get my ruler?

ANYWAYS... I ordered my hat channels from my local metal fabricator. I got 14 gauge, 22 pieces, at 40 inches a piece. That'll leave me 10 inches on either side. The whole thing will cost me $10 a piece, or $220.

I decided to go with the Hat Channel because of my lack of a skilled welder. The person who said they could do it ended up burning a whole right through the rib piece he was practicing on so I decided to just eat the $66 for the tubing I bought and go with the hat channel. As for the superiority of this method when it comes to safety I can't speak of.

I bought two of these:

MetalTech 5 ft. x 5 ft. Blue Standard Mason Scaffold Frame-M-MF6060PS-A - The Home Depot

I got 24" leveling jacks for them for $79 at Home Depot. They can hold 11,000 pounds each and can raise 18". I'll put them on some wood to make up the 2" difference for my 20" raise.

Good so far?
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Sounds good to me.
I think you'll be glad you got that channel made, whether welding or bolting.
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I'm glad you made the right choice getting hat channel made. You also got it for a good price.

That welder melting right though your rib is exactly the kind of problems / mistakes I was talking about. Welding takes some skill and proper equipment.

I wasn't born yesterday, and I don't type on this forum just to waste my own time. I try to warn people without them having to learn the hard way.

I would like to see a day where you can't buy welding supply's without being a ticketed welder. It would prevent all these "Wana be welders" from making dangerous messes that kill people.

With the scaffold and hat channels, I think your now ready to tackle the roof raise.

Mr eastcoastCB. Auto spell check sucks. I meant to say "common sense", But you already new that.

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Oh come now, you don't have to "eat" the cost of the tubing for surely it'll go to good use somewhere. A luggage or storage rack/frame, or support framework under a bed or seating area, etc.
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Ask him about the line of spaceships on the ridge that were watching MR Armstrong when he stepped onto the moon.

Most Engineers are cocky, over paid, useless people in my books.

Anyone with common seance, able to see three dimensionally, and the ability to research can do just as well without the ego.

So, everyone keep chest thumping about your engineer friends.

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I'm not so sure about going THAT far... Maybe some sort of quick test - butt weld some 22 gauge sheet metal together, and maybe lay down a bead in some 1/4" plate joined at 90 degrees. If you pass that you get to buy stuff. Otherwise, you get a discount at the local trade school to take an intro to welding and you take the test until you pass.

That'll never happen because it costs money to run a program like that, but we can still dream!

Not to mention, in 'murica, we can do nearly anything we please anyway, certifications or licensing be damned. ;)




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I would like to see a day where you can't buy welding supply's without being a ticketed welder. It would prevent all these "Wana be welders" from making dangerous messes that kill people.
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