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Old 04-24-2017, 11:26 PM   #21
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Doesn't take all that much vac to pull a string through a tube. Just a regular wet-dry vac works fine. I had to use the sewing thread for that 120 foot tube because it wouldn't pull anything heavier! Shorter runs can use heavier string.

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I've never heard of anyone spray foaming a floor on the interior. There have been a number of cases where people have foam sprayed from beneath the floor. That would be my number one choice because it doesn't steal any headroom.
You might be thinking of any number of them.. but the one I remember is this one I posted from my bus a couple months ago. Except I didn't have it done; it looks to me as if it came from the factory this way. IMHO it's too neat and clean to have been done by a dealer before delivery or at any time after.
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Old 04-25-2017, 12:31 AM   #22
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I'm going to have to examine the underside of my floor very carefully before I commit to trying to spray it. That sounds like a very frustrating and miserable spray job.

Spraying the underside of my bus wouldn't be as difficult for me as it would be for those of you with numerous tanks and plumbing down there already. If I were planning to go to Alaska again I'd probably spray the floor from underneath. I'll likely take the simple route and put in a floating floor with a bit of insulation.
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Old 04-25-2017, 06:56 AM   #23
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Speaking of solid, does anyone use stabilizer jacks? I don't, but I feel like I'm on a boat sometimes. Gotta have sea legs for that rocking feeling.
I bought 4 scissor jacks to make sure the bus was level and steady before we did the roof raise. With those in place, we tried jumping up and down inside the bus, and it didn't budge. My plan is to bolt them to the frame so we can steady the bus when parked. I may not bother with them all the time, but if anyone starts feeling seasick... down they go!
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Old 04-25-2017, 07:25 AM   #24
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Yeah, I don't trust the foam guy I used to do a decent job under the floor. At least I wouldn't have to trim the foam under the bus, but that's one area the tougher foam would shine.

Previously someone was talking about spray foaming the underside of the floor and then spraying bedliner onto the foam to keep it dry and safe. It would certainly be sad to have to cut the foam out to be able to fix things under the bus. At the same time the foam would protect anything down there.
If you're building a stationary bus, I would do that in a heartbeat. Keep it from further rusting, keep critters out, etc. But a bus on the road? Only if you're stripping it to the frame and building up from there.

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It looks like a lot of work to spray underneath the floor. My alternate, lazy, plan would be to install a floating floor inside, loosing about 1 1/4" of headroom.

Plans keep changing. I also didn't have a real floorplan in my bus. I let things fall where they may basically. There is a pattern developing.
I'm waiting to hear back from my Interior Designer on the floor plan. She's a little slow. But not as slow as my Travel Agent. My Social Secratary is somewhere between the two. Now my Press Release agent is an A gamer.
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Old 04-25-2017, 07:39 AM   #25
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Seems some of us don't even bother with floorplans. I have a rough one in my head, sorta.
Then some folks have a floorplan and 3d model built before they own a bus.
Different strokes, I reckon.
I've never owned an RV before. My sum of RV experience is a weekend at the races. One wekend at that. I am most certainly "building" my bus with banana boxes before the first stick of cabintet wood goes in.

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Dave's bus is awesome! Sounds solid when you walk on those floors, man!
Don't know him but he certainly talks a good game at the very least. Flipping thru his pics now looking for his soup bowl.
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Old 04-25-2017, 07:42 AM   #26
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Speaking of solid, does anyone use stabilizer jacks? I don't, but I feel like I'm on a boat sometimes. Gotta have sea legs for that rocking feeling.
If you thing a bus feels like a boat, you've never been on a boat. Ex-squid so when people were bitching about the cruise ship, I was floored. If I stood still, closed my eyes, and leaned back a little I could just feel the ship moving.

If you want sea legs, try going thru these at a run during general quarters. The name "knee knocker" is kinda misleading. They catch you square in the middle of your shin. It doesn't hurt any less.
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Old 04-25-2017, 08:00 AM   #28
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My bus also has that penetration for the filler as well. And, like I said, make sure you design in access for your fuel pump. Guy I know used to be a heavy mechanic, working on buses. He has horror stories of that access in conversions being blocked off and the shop having to tear apart the interior
Ok, I get that blocking the fuel pump is not ideal but tearing apart the interior??? Can you not drop the fuel tank from underneath?

Maybe my ist Gen RX-7 spoiled me. Fuel pump was on top of the tank with no access. Not that they ever go bad, but the tank is hend up with 2 belly bands and 4 bolts. Granted it isn't 60 gallons. The cool thing about teh RX-7 tank is it had a drain plug in the buttom. The tank was a bit of a pain to line up wiht the filler neck and bolts one handed while trying to get the bolts started.

P.S. Someone at teh school didn't like teh OEM access panel. I need to take a picture of it. It started life as a 13x13 square. It is no longer 13x13 nor is it square. Someone went to town with a sawzall so they could get at the fuel fittings on the hoses.
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Old 04-25-2017, 08:08 AM   #29
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Here is how we did our sub floor. It took several times but the thing is wicked solid now.
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Here is about the spray foam we used. We used two different types and our friends used a third. Tiger Foam was by far the best. Lowe's Froth Pak came in second.
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Good thinking about building it all in cardboard first. That was our initial plan but since we are using counter depth appliances we just built the rest out of tape to those depths. Saved time on obtaining, cutting, and then recycling all of that cardboard.

Good luck dude!
I go to Costco often enough I should be good for collecting. At least if I recycle them they will get recycled. Some random mouthbreather is likely to just throw them in the trash. Mine become cat forts until I get tired of kicking them around then get recycled.
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Old 04-25-2017, 08:32 AM   #30
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I don't see a lot of choices in the floorplan. Each of us has a bowling alley of varying lengths that can only be set up in certain ways to work effectively. i.e. your passenger area is generally always behind the driver area.
There are certain "standards" unless you are turning the world upside down. Bedroom in the back, living int he front, kitchen/bath somewhere in the middle. Hell, even houses are set up that way. But I've seen some where the living room is shoved against the driver wall then the kitchen/bath is shoved against the passenger wall. Breaks up the long bowling alley. And that's what I want to go for.
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