Spray foam and water/electric lines...

[Brewerbob]

Originally Posted by superdave

Solar penetrating the roof will come down thru the wall also.

Your walls are foam filled; how are you going to do this?

Ill have pics of my bus finished in about 6 years

An optimist I see.

[Robin97396]

That stuff sounds like a 4x8' sheet of plastic cutting board. I'm wondering if it would make durable countertops.

For floors I'd guess that material would transfer heat quite easily. Good if you're going hydronic. Still quite expensive.

[Brewerbob]

Originally Posted by dan-fox

I'm guessing it ain't cheap, and at 43 lb/sheet I'm not too liable to use it if I don't have to.

Finally found the price for 3/4" which I think is what I saw in stores. It's $98 a sheet. 3/4 ply is $28 a sheet. I've no idea what the 1/2 ply weighs but I bet it's more than 43 lbs. Price is the difference for me. The crude math says I need 8 sheets to cover 7 1/2' x 40'. The RE has the back dash and there's the driver's seat but it would still be a minimum of 6 sheets.

I have no idea if my bus is leaking but there was a lot of water under the plywood. It was raining on the drive home and it's rained since then but I haven't seen any leaks on the outside of the skin. The plywood was soggy at best in some spots. Damp would be best case in the driest corner.

I guess it depends on what you are doing in 20 yrs. You're either rebuilding your flooring or taking a nap.

[Brewerbob]

Originally Posted by Robin97396

That stuff sounds like a 4x8' sheet of plastic cutting board. I'm wondering if it would make durable countertops.

I ain't no plastic expert but it kinda felt like that. The googles would know what the cutting boards are made out of.

For floors I'd guess that material would transfer heat quite easily. Good if you're going hydronic. Still quite expensive.

Um, how is plastic more thermally conductive than wood? It damn sure it as conductive electrically.

[Robin97396]

Plastic is a denser material than wood.

Why is nobody considering marine grade plywood? That's in the same price neighborhood as the plastic sheets.

[Brewerbob]

Originally Posted by Robin97396

Plastic is a denser material than wood.

Why is nobody considering marine grade plywood? That's in the same price neighborhood as the plastic sheets.

I dunno about that. If it weighs the same, it's the same density.


I have considered it. I used it for countertop underlayment in the past.

[Robin97396]

Whatever you use, I'm sure it will work fine for the next 20 to 30 years.

I'm the minimalist, mostly because of this state's odd rules. I have to find a loophole to do just about anything to this "VAN".

[Brewerbob]

Originally Posted by dan-fox

I'm guessing it ain't cheap, and at 43 lb/sheet I'm not too liable to use it if I don't have to.

So, I'm bored at work,... Sanded pine and OSB don't show a weight on the HD site. Sanded maple/birch in 1/2 in is 50 lbs a sheet. The PVC sheet was 43 lbs. The plastic is less dense than the birch. Granted you aren't using the good stuff for subflooring but is pine 14% lighter than maple/birch?

[Brewerbob]

Originally Posted by Robin97396

Whatever you use, I'm sure it will work fine for the next 20 to 30 years.

I'm the minimalist, mostly because of this state's odd rules. I have to find a loophole to do just about anything to this "VAN".

You know you can jack up the bus and change the license plate right?

[Robin97396]

I didn't want to fool around using an address in a different state. That adds a lot of confusion if I get stopped. Besides, in this area people get busted for that all the time. It's a tax evasion matter, and my last position was at OR Dept. of Revenue. It likely wouldn't go well for me if I got busted.

[EastCoastCB]

Originally Posted by Robin97396

Plastic is a denser material than wood.

Why is nobody considering marine grade plywood? That's in the same price neighborhood as the plastic sheets.

Marine grade ply will be one of the things I pay up $$ for.

[Robin97396]

I looked at marine grade plywood, then I looked at regular plywood, back to marine grade and then back to regular again. It wasn't a hard decision because I'm pretty cheap. If this plywood rots out before I do I'll scold myself severely.

[Brewerbob]

Originally Posted by Robin97396

I didn't want to fool around using an address in a different state. That adds a lot of confusion if I get stopped. Besides, in this area people get busted for that all the time. It's a tax evasion matter, and my last position was at OR Dept. of Revenue. It likely wouldn't go well for me if I got busted.

You're assuming I meant evasion. Jack up the bus and put a WA tag on it. Then drive it to WA. Tell OR to piss off!!

[Robin97396]

Well, there's a little problem of leaving my real estate behind. It's good to have a place to park where I won't get kicked out.

WA tags are calculated differently than OR tags. It's the WA people that falsely register for OR tags, because it's cheaper, that usually get in trouble for using an OR address. WA tags are fairly expensive as they are based on the value of your vehicle. I find that strange since they also have sales tax.

ORs tax base is from real estate. Tags are cheap here but property taxes are way up there. WA doesn't have property tax since they have sales tax.

Being mathematically challenged I'd agree to a little standardization on taxes between states. Flat tax anyone?

[slaughridge85]

Originally Posted by Robin97396

WA doesn't have property tax since they have sales tax.

And friggen KS has BOTH property and sales tax and the state is still broke as a joke... But it's ok because the governer has been assured that jeebus will take care of us. Why don't the poors just buy more money anyway?

[Robin97396]

There is no accountability in higher government.

[EastCoastCB]

Originally Posted by slaughridge85

And friggen KS has BOTH property and sales tax and the state is still broke as a joke... But it's ok because the governer has been assured that jeebus will take care of us. Why don't the poors just buy more money anyway?

We have property and sales tax. And lottery that's supposed to 100% go toward education. But our schools are pitiful. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/featu...30th-post.html
Trying to get a pack of smokes or some fuel at the convenience store takes forever due to the huge lines of gamblers waiting to "win big" on the lottery so they can buy more tickets. End rant.

[Robin97396]

How can so many people believe that they are going to win at gambling?

I guess it must be true. The casinos just hand out money. No wonder I never got rich.

[Scooternj]

Originally Posted by Robin97396

How can so many people believe that they are going to win at gambling?

I guess it must be true. The casinos just hand out money. No wonder I never got rich.

Then you've never been to Atlantic City. The only people the casinos here hand money to are the corporate owners. And, in the past 3 years, we've had 5 declare bankruptcy.

And since we drifted...NJ has income, sales, and property taxes; lottery, and both casinos and ponies. Our schools are a mixed bag (high income and high property tax areas equal great schools; low income and high property taxes equal crappy schools). And we *still* have a massive budget gap...which probably went into Krispy Kreme's belly. Thank Cthulhu he's out of office in November.

[superdave]

Originally Posted by Brewerbob

Your walls are foam filled; how are you going to do this?

interior wall
An optimist I see.

unless it kills me