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Old 06-23-2015, 02:58 PM   #1
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I want my bathtub to go in front of my rear driver side wheels. Problem is that the gloriously cold transair behemoth of an air conditioner is right there...I mean right.in.that.spot where the grey water tank really otta be.

I can possibly do some fiddley stuff and use a dual tank system to catch grey water directly below in a 10-16 gal tank that's in series with a 30gal tank but there's (sigh) a rear axle that really needs to be between the two in order for the bus to roll.

Alternative...give up some space behind the back wheels to house a shower. I don't like this alternative b/c it takes up space that the bed wants and its not a tub which I use for magnesium soaks when I'm sick and general lounging. Also, can't go to the passenger side b/c that same location houses the all important diesel tank.

Any ideas other than "suck it up and install a shower"? Specifically, it would be nice if others could share some details about their own shower/grey water storage set up. I see showers etc on skoolie builds that are right where this one needs to go but I suppose there's not behemoth AC unit underneath.
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Old 06-23-2015, 06:14 PM   #2
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i went below the diesel tank.

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Old 06-23-2015, 08:39 PM   #3
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Are you really going to keep the AC? I'm assuming you need to run the engine to use it, very expensive. I thought I was going to use mine, but in the end decided against it.
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Old 06-23-2015, 08:46 PM   #4
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We'd planned to pull it out since the start buuuut....
Problems with getting rid of it:
1. who reclaims R-12? none of the dozen business I called. (any ideas?)
2. NC "4 of 6" for retitle includes AC and we've gotten the nod to claim it (not such a big, big deal b/c we've already got 4 others, but...)
3. it appears to be piped into the engine in some magical way i don't understand (any ideas?)
4. that baby is C.O.L.D.
5. it will cool the place while we travel.
6. its hot here right now and a cooling joy ride wouldn't go amiss.

Reasons to get rid of it:
1. Obviously its in the way under the bus
2. also, its in the way inside the bus
3. its pretty ugly
4. we recycled the lllloonnngggg aluminum distribution channel already
5. it only works while in transit
<sigh>

I'm most tempted to leave it because of the mystery of removal and NC retitle thing.
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Old 06-23-2015, 09:54 PM   #5
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How about adding a small sump and a pump with a filter directly below the shower and pumping the water over the axle to the grey tank? Downside is you'll occasionally need to clean the collected hair from the filter (nasty).
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Old 06-24-2015, 08:18 AM   #6
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A maciator (sp?) pump might be an option to Jazty's idea. You can use smaller diameter pipe/hose coming out of the pump to the tank.
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Old 06-24-2015, 10:48 AM   #7
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A maciator (sp?) pump might be an option to Jazty's idea. You can use smaller diameter pipe/hose coming out of the pump to the tank.
Could be a good option. Does anyone have experience with macerator pumps and hair?

EDIT: this thread over at Cruisers and Sailing Forum may answer the question http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...tml#post630778

The author of post #17 says that the hair gets wrapped around the shaft instead of minced, eventually slowing the pump down to a halt.
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Old 06-24-2015, 01:27 PM   #8
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Any chance at all of relocating the tub? We put ours behind the driver's seat. It's in the living room/kitchen, but it'll have a door sitting on top of it to form a convertible kitchen table.
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Old 06-24-2015, 02:39 PM   #9
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I guess I don't quite understand the problem. You could have the tub and tank separated 100 feet (or whatever distance) so long as the drain line slopes adequately toward the tank. Just 1 inch in 10 feet is considered a bare minimum, with 2 or more inches preferred, by the sewer district serving my area. Is there not enough clearance to squeeze in a pipe with slight downward slope?
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Old 06-24-2015, 03:22 PM   #10
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I will check with the chief engineer of this outfit on the post by family wagon but if i recall correctly, there was some issue about pipe running above the fore/aft ibeam so it would create water flow 'uphill'...
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