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Old 01-06-2012, 04:02 PM   #21
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Hard to reply to a pout.
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Old 01-06-2012, 04:22 PM   #22
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OK, one simple question. Where do I go to find out exactly what is and what is not recommended (or required) for RVs? Is it NFPA 1192, or the NEC, or RVIA, or what? I won't be starting the electrical side of my build for another year or so, but forewarned is forearmed.

It sounds like hanging my tanks is a lot easier . . .

John



NEC Article 551 applies specifcally to RV's, but other sections have handy data as well, such as the ampacity tables, etc.

NFPA 1192 deals mostly with fuel systems and stuff like that.

I don't have any idea about RIVA, other than hearing of it.

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Hard to reply to a pout.
Look, I don't know you or any of the rest on this forum. I do not know how many buses y'all have converted. I do not know what your professions are (definitely not any woodworking pros) or if y'all are any good at it. I do know Fred Hobe's reputation amongst the coach forums. I do know that he have converted many coaches over his lifetime.

On the other hand, I do know our skills. Sorry But I will take Fred Hobe's advice and our skills over anyone on this forum. It YOUR problem, not mine. Like I have said before, convert your bus your way. Leave me alone.
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:30 PM   #24
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Lorna,

Not sure why you take this so personally.

I simply used the tools and data used by electricians daily to design and install circuits and applied them to the conditions. It's all quite objective data and in common use in the trade, has nothing to do with anyone's abilities - it's simple arithmetic. I don't have to believe in anyone to use it. Doesn't depend on anyone's trade or how good they are at it. Do the calculations yourself and see, the numbers will come out the same on anyone's calculator.

Don't think many electrician's would design and install an electrical system based what Fred Hobie says, nice a guy as he must be, and referencing a table put on an extension cord website by a website designer.

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P.S. - What do you do if Fred Hobie dies or something? Cast adrift with no hope in sight?
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WOW! Hot topic. Should I break out the dueling pistols? OOOH Touchy Touchy.

OK, You can yell at me now.
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WOW! Hot topic. Should I break out the dueling pistols? OOOH Touchy Touchy.

OK, You can yell at me now.

An Accordian in the middle would really be making a racket huh, with the pushin' and pullin'.
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WOW! Hot topic. Should I break out the dueling pistols? OOOH Touchy Touchy.

OK, You can yell at me now.

An Accordian in the middle would really be making a racket huh, with the pushin' and pullin'.

I would get everybody dancing. There would be smiles on everyone's face. Music to sooth the savage beast.
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No savage beast here - still got dancin feet (might just be from too much coffee tho' ).

Just curious, if anyone wants to return this thread to a discussion - if my methods, calculations or assumptions a coupla posts back are wrong, please show me. I was just trying to evaluate an installation and maybe pass on some useful information.
If someone has another idea about that picture that actually sticks to the facts, maybe we can get back to the information sharing part. For all I know what I put up there's all wet, just nobody's actually responded to the calc's and stuff I put up.

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WTd..I know I'm a noobie to this site,all I have to add is "to each their own" I have bought enuf old vehicles over the years that have tin foil wrapped around fuses...I think WTF?...I search out and fix the fault...even if it worked for years..I'm still like "that is just bad wrong" I liked your calculations they where "visually" correct(I don't know electrical like an electrical engineer" it's sstill good info.
It is the end users "job" to research and come up with their own ideas of what is right.
Thankyou again for more "info" on the wiring topic....
I km a machinist/tool and die maker so I look at some peoples stuff and say"that looks like crap or that won't hold up" I will give critisizium (s/p) and an insite on how it should be done(according to say the machinist handbook)
It still falls back on the enduser

Again good info for thought
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