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Old 07-01-2012, 08:41 PM   #121
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Hey Trunt,
I had another thought on the top, hope you don't mind. This one would work a bit better and is somewhat simpler than the other one. The problem of the smaller front and rear panels is also solved. I hope you can understand my drawings, sorry for the terrible artwork.
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So what do you think?
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:01 PM   #122
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Do the sides of the trolley top have to be hard walls? Could you do canvas sides like those pop-up truck campers? Any boat cover maker should be able to sew them up.
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:20 PM   #123
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I found my camera--now you are in for it!
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:42 PM   #124
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The only part I wasn"t clear on was the wheels
The panels should be hinged on the bottom inside edge. The wheels roll in a track on the center panel frame raising and lowering the roof as the panels are raised or lowered. Think of a sliding van door, or a drawer slide, the track would have to be a C shape (what I see is cutting one side off some square tube to make the tracks, the weld them to a square tube frame) . The panels would tuck into the center panel (displacing some insulation most likely- so you would definitely want to use some type of thermo paint to avoid two hot spots in the roof) sandwiched between the existing roof line and the new movable top. As far as making it move up and down, your linear actuators could work, one on each corner to avoid any torsion of the end panels. maybe could use some of the emergency escape window locks to lock the side panels in place.

Hopefully this cleared the confusion up. I'm not used to drawing things so that other people can understand them. If need be, I can mock something up for you as I can build it better than I can draw it. Haven't been able to do much on my bus due to family obligations and nice balmy 150 degree heat.
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Old 07-01-2012, 11:28 PM   #125
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Still stuck on this top... think that it would look fantastic if the wall panels are made of wood ( epi specifically- ironwood from central america, has the same fire rating as steel, it has a grain pattern similar to teak but is much darker, also will not even think about rotting for at least 75 years) and trimmed with chrome or stainless. What can I say, I'm a wood guy
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:13 AM   #126
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For some reason, I think ol trunt will use sheet metal.
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Old 07-02-2012, 09:48 AM   #127
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Hey Trunt --- that is one serious "shop press" you have there Dude! Not to mention quite a collection of dies. Makes my side panels look like a cakewalk since they were flat with just a double fold along the bottom. I didn't realize until now that yours had the stiffening rib stamped directly into the metal. Most are a separate element just screwed onto the surface. Apparently a shortcut they didn't apply until a few years later.

And I have to ask...is the body on yours riveted or screwed together? It wasn't until I started pulling my panels that I realized it was all put together with big sheetmetal screws that had the Phillips heads filled in solid with paint.
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Hey Tango, I was lucky to find an old school metal fabrication outfit with a sense of humor. They were willing to try my home made dies and seemed as pleased with the results as I was. By the way, I was just kidding about my wife's response to your chainsaw suggestion--it was my head she was going to pound on HA.

I have worked on getting the garage door assembly lifted as far as is possible without a chainsaw but still lack 1" of clearance--I'll post the pics of that attempt tonight along with some dealing with the rear springs on the bus.

I think Allen's second take on the trolley top is getting close to what I'd like to see--I wonder if one can buy welding rod for "ironwood"?
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Tango, I neglected to mention that my bus was assembled with 1/4" rrrrrrrivits everywhere--except where they forgot to do them and used slot head 1/4 twenties with square nuts and rust instead. Haven't found a sheetmetal screw yet--probably because they haden't been invented yet
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Hey Trunt --- Heck, I figure for anyone as qualified as you to raise the roof on a bus, a garage roof oughta be easy! Congratulations and I'm amazed & jealous you can still find an "old school" shop out there or anywhere anymore. Most places these days can't do squat beyond what the factory computer program is limited to...and they don't have a clue what that is or how it does it. Just which color button they're supposed to push.

And if the garage roof won't move...you can always chop & channel that beast. Hey, yer in Kalifornia...rod on!
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