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Old 07-08-2005, 02:48 AM   #1
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Howdy everyone!

I have a shortie that I am about half way to 3/4's finished. I have a couple floorplan pics in gallery "The Shortie" and I'll post some real Pictures in a few days.

It's only a Shortie so I don't plan on using it for full-timing or anything, but it sure makes camping in the rain more enjoyable than using a tent. It's pretty much a warm up for me until I find my "Perfect bus" Hopefully a 40 pass International. It's not quite as small as mine... but not too huge as to effect it's maneuverability in an unfamiliar town (I may change my mind on this)

For now tho... I am enjoying the work on this one, Im still working on plumbing the sink, finishing the Cabinets, Upholstery and trim baby.. lots o Good looking trim. I am curious if anybody has any further info on Roof racks?? I think I am going to make one out of wood for now (More affordable) I have the Idea in my head but I am mostly concerned about holes in my roof/side of the bus... Leakage has anyone had a problem or a solution for this, as I am sure more than one or two people out there have put some holes in their roof's.

Anyways Keep up the good work on all of your projects, Any insight on mine would be cool and Keep on Truckin'
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Old 07-08-2005, 07:36 PM   #2
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Just a thought on roof racks....with the caveat that I haven't built any, but have done roof decks, metal roofs, etc.....

There are screws for sheet metal that have rubber sealing washers built in, they are used for sheet metal roofing. These would do OK in many situations.
And whenever you put a hole in the roof, first thing you do before the fastener goes in is to add sealant, then more sealant around the fastener, and some between the roof and the thing laid on it (wood 'sleeper', metal support, etc.).
Use only sealants that remain flexible for their lifetimes. Some caulks dry out and get kinda brittle pretty quickly.

Seems many folks cut 2x10's (or something), cut arches across (to fit) the roof, with the decking laid on that.

While I like the idea of plastic decking, it's expensive and some is kinda HEAVY, buses may be fairly top-heavy as it is and I wouldn't want to add to a possible hazard. O'course, there ARE lighter synthetic decking materials, but the price goes up......

The newer ACQ pressure-treated is hell on fasteners, twice as corrosive as the old stuff. Use only RATED galvy or stainless fasteners, or watch the screws disappear......

Y'know, it occurs to me that there is a temporary safety railing BASE (made of heavy plastic, and yellow in color) that is used on work sites for railings and hand rails, etc. Maybe look into these, I've seen them in Fine Homebuilding, and The Journal of Light Construction magazines.
You build the rails and posts of 2x4s etc., using these bases and cross-pieces.

They may have been featured also on This Old House, which BTW has a TREMENDOUS resource site, for materials, suppliers, etc.

Lots to look at out there................look at the ROOF DECKS section on these forums.
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Old 07-09-2005, 01:20 AM   #3
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Right on man... finally the answer I was looking for. I have seen those screws that you were talking about, and I have used them before, but I seem to remember the cost being quite high. I choose to go the sealant route, as I have done this before and it seems to work ok. As for the application of the sealant, I guess I was spot on... it seemed like a bit of overkill but come to think of it.. when it comes to roof leaks you can never be too careful.

I was pretty much just thinking of using 2x8's or 2x10's cut to the arch of the roof and secured with angle iron, then laying the deck on top (similar to Pablo's). PT lumber is not an option for me because of the corrosion factor. I was in fact thinking of using Cedar (looks nice) or just normal "el Cheapo" lumber and using somthing like "Thompsons Water seal" or would that be the same as using PT?? Im not sure.

As far as railings go... I havn't put much thought into it other than the fact that I want it light and removable, or possibly short (no more than 2ft) and permanant. Im sure the Idea will come once I put it to paper and start building... Just like most of my other projects, the engineering is a result of the building (anyone with me on that last comment) which is what makes all this Bus Building so fun. No plans man... coz it's mostly custom... cept for a few simple guidelines.

Anyhoo tx for the Reply
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Old 07-23-2005, 01:15 AM   #4
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Ah well, Screw the roof rack idea for now. Everything is torn out and im starting again, im pretty stoked!
Finished grinding away at the floor today and put down my first coat of paint. Floor took about 2 days longer than I expected, but that's most of the crappy work done. Other than handling the insulation, the rest is quite fun.
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Old 08-02-2005, 02:43 AM   #5
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Finally, after a week of painting some real progress. Finished painting, caulking and covering the floor today. Took a while to do the floor... waiting for paint to dry and such, then painting the boards to lay down too. All the wet paint around kinda makes it hard to make any measurments in the bus, but in my downtime I managed to build up the frame-work for the walls too. Now that the wood is screwed down it looks real good, and im glad I took the extra time to do this part Well.

Should have some pic's in the gallery tomorrow, I think the paint on the floor is worth a look
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Old 08-02-2005, 12:17 PM   #6
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Okay, your picture is about a close to a grizzly as I want to get! Boy, those are some beautiful places you have gone with the bus.
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Old 08-02-2005, 01:42 PM   #7
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Heh.... that Pic was a total fluke. Grouse mountain, 20 min from my place, has a Grizzly Sanctuary, oh and a Wolf Sanctuary. If you ask me the area is too small, but that's how the world seems to treat animals now adays. There are Two Grizzly's there that have been rescued from the interior... one was hit by a truck I think... and im not sure about the other one.

Anyways, My Girlfriend took the Pic, She was standing on the fence post, Im sure she was about Six feet Away... couldn't have been much more, but the funny little (Big) thing just sat there for about 15 min just scratching himself and Yawning, Im not sure just how tame they are but YOU DO NOT want to get any closer than that.

Good fishing in that lake too, lotsa yummy Rainbow Trout
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Old 08-04-2005, 09:19 PM   #8
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Pics are up with the floorwork done, I have now started on the walls. Didn't do any work on her today, neighbours were complaining.

Stapled this thing on my garage door a while ago:



Quite rude, they coulda just taked to me, so the agreement was to make noise till eight, Fair enough.
Now they want me to stop at around 4 or 5 coz that's when they get home from work. The city is kinda a bummer for this, I mean.. I could legaly keep going till 8, but does that make me a Jerk?? Im thinking kinda.

Anyways, figured i'd give them a break for today. Should have the walls Insulated and Skinned tomorrow, and maybe the back beds will be partially done too, at least that's my goal, coz I gotta get some of this junk outa my workshop and back in the bus.... more pics to come.
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Old 08-04-2005, 09:37 PM   #9
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tacked??

Dan-O, did they tack that on your door? If so, call your local police department and file a case for Criminal Mischief. That way when you find the person that did it you can have them arrested!
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Old 08-04-2005, 09:57 PM   #10
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Really?!... does that apply in Canada too? Coz I know exactly who it is, I can't prove it coz I don't have their voice on tape or anything but they come over and bug me all the time. Like I said, they want me to stop at 4oclock now coz that's what's convienient for them, but im still within the rules, what about me man. I gotta work too and this is what I choose to do after work.

I'ts an ongoing battle and im just a reid bending in the wind, would be nice to have somthing to throw back at them tho next time they confront me.
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