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08-15-2013, 11:35 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 22
Year: 97
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
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1st trip with the Skoolie!!
I asked a question about flooring here a couple months ago. Got wayyyyy too busy trying to scramble to get it ready for a very short notice 10 day Creede Colorado camping trip. Our favorite campground is primitive with a pit toilet, only has 4 camp sites and is usually empty and QUIET!!!
I scored free carpet and padding that was less than 1 year old, so its got carpet in it for now.
Everything worked perfectly!!!
Here are some pictures.
I was peeling off the stickers and HAD to get a picture of this... Thought about leaving it like this, but i dont need a reason to get stopped by the PO-PO...
Alamosa Colorado. Picked up a passinger.
Here is our camp spot.
Packed up, headed home.
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08-15-2013, 12:01 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
Posts: 5,158
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Re: 1st trip with the Skoolie!!
congrates
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08-15-2013, 12:02 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Buffalo, New York
Posts: 191
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Bluebird, Model 3800
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 42
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Re: 1st trip with the Skoolie!!
Looks like fun was had ...
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08-15-2013, 12:58 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 22
Year: 97
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
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Re: 1st trip with the Skoolie!!
My fuel mileage got better as i learned how to drive it.
My 1ton van (5.7L vortec) got about 7-9mpg towing the same route no matter how hard i drove it.
The bus (5.9 cummins),,,,,,, not so much. Got 6mpg the first 120 miles! Backed off the throttle a little and got between 8-12 the rest of the trip. Wind makes a HUGE difference with the bus.
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08-16-2013, 08:49 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Ocala, FL
Posts: 635
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Bookmobile body by Farber
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: Navistar DT466/Alison MT643
Rated Cap: 1
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Re: 1st trip with the Skoolie!!
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Originally Posted by Scooter141
My fuel mileage got better as i learned how to drive it.
My 1ton van (5.7L vortec) got about 7-9mpg towing the same route no matter how hard i drove it.
The bus (5.9 cummins),,,,,,, not so much. Got 6mpg the first 120 miles! Backed off the throttle a little and got between 8-12 the rest of the trip. Wind makes a HUGE difference with the bus.
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That's because speed makes a huge difference with a bus. Loaded weight doesn't make as big a difference as some people think, but the fuel mileage can go up radically if you decrease speed just 5MPH. If you maintain a constant ground speed with a headwind on the way out and a tailwind on the return trip, you'll find the drive home much more fuel efficient.
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08-16-2013, 10:04 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 227
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 47
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Re: 1st trip with the Skoolie!!
Would you say a 12 window vs a 6 window will get close to the same fuel mileage, driven the same? What would that be in weight difference, about 4k?
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08-17-2013, 08:14 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Ocala, FL
Posts: 635
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Bookmobile body by Farber
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: Navistar DT466/Alison MT643
Rated Cap: 1
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Re: 1st trip with the Skoolie!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Motobus
Would you say a 12 window vs a 6 window will get close to the same fuel mileage, driven the same? What would that be in weight difference, about 4k?
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I don't think a smaller bus would get the same fuel mileage as a larger bus, but the same bus loaded lightly or heavily will usually not get a vast difference in the miles per gallon. That same bus, however, driven a few miles per hour slower, will see a huge increase in fuel efficiency.
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08-17-2013, 07:14 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: MN
Posts: 732
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 72
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Re: 1st trip with the Skoolie!!
Idk...my 13 window dog nose gets 9 mpg, with a heavy foot, raised governor, and backed out fuel screw. I think I could substantially raise that (10-11?) if I backed off the throttle. I think the 3 biggest factors are aerodynamics (bad, lol), speed, and transmission. I don't think bus length (with identical drivetrains) will cause much variance.
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08-17-2013, 07:35 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Farmington Hills, Mi (Detroit area)
Posts: 1,968
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Eldorado Aerotech 24'
Chassis: Ford E-450 Cutaway Bus
Engine: 7.3L Powerstroke
Rated Cap: 19
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Re: 1st trip with the Skoolie!!
Back when I was into bicycling I learned that wind resistance goes up by the square of the speed. This means that in order to double your speed you need to quadruple your power. Vehicle weight effects fuel mileage when you're in stop and go traffic and when climbing hills. Once you get up to speed on level ground most of your power goes into overcoming air resistance. That's why drafting is such a big deal in racing; You're basically driving into the hole the other guy just spent so much energy punching in the air.
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08-17-2013, 07:59 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Cleburne TX
Posts: 692
Year: 2001
Chassis: International Amtran RE
Engine: DT466E/MD3060
Rated Cap: 78
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Re: 1st trip with the Skoolie!!
Don't feel bad about the "HO BUS" I think its kind of cool. This coming from someone who has titled his bus the "Bigasspimp Mobile"
Nice bus I really like the interior.
Keep up the good work.
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08-17-2013, 09:47 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Farmington Hills, Mi (Detroit area)
Posts: 1,968
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Eldorado Aerotech 24'
Chassis: Ford E-450 Cutaway Bus
Engine: 7.3L Powerstroke
Rated Cap: 19
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Re: 1st trip with the Skoolie!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by bapos
Don't feel bad about the "HO BUS" I think its kind of cool. This coming from someone who has titled his bus the "Bigasspimp Mobile"
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"The Roach Motel" isn't the classiest possible name either.
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08-17-2013, 10:11 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 227
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 47
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Re: 1st trip with the Skoolie!!
Thanks for the info all. I think the HO BUS is awesome. Nice new style front end, Cummins, perfect length for day or weekend trips. I would guess that bus weighs about 12K, pulling 6-7k?
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08-19-2013, 02:40 PM
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#13
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 22
Year: 97
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
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Re: 1st trip with the Skoolie!!
I liked the HO BUS, but i didnt want to attract the wrong kind of attention!
Last time i weighed it she was 13,100. The Sploder and trailer are right at 6K. Add 1500-2000 lbs of camping chit too.
It been regeared to 3:77's so its not screaming at 65-70mph.
I put the stock pump plate back in and instantly noticed a drop in power, but have been told by alot of dodge boys that i should get better mileage with the high HP plate...??? IDK, im new the the whole desiel ricer thing.
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