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Old 07-15-2016, 11:19 PM   #1
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Hello all,

We found her!! We purchased this beauty yesterday. We made the 2 hour haul south to Hillburn NY where hunk of metal was parked on a grassy hill. We had a heavy vehicle road service mechanic hook the computer up to check everything out. He also checked over the frame, brakes, transition, tires and anything else he could get his hands on ($$$). After about an hour look ever he gave me the the thumbs up. We negotiated the price a little, shortly after had the title in hand on the way to the local DMV. On the way to the DMV I called progressive insurance. I ended up getting a commercial policy for personal use for $1300 per year (Any suggestions to get a cheaper policy would be greatly appreciated) the the DMV went surprisingly well other thank the 2 hour wait. With a little sweet talking I got her re-titled as a van with regular plates and a 10 day inspection. By the time we got back to the bus it was 8pm. Now that it has been re-titled I dont need a CDL to drive it in New York(correct me if I'm wrong). I hopped in the drivers throne and made the maiden voyage 100 miles north. I've never driven such a large vehicle before so I was extra careful and had Desaray keeping and eye out for me when I was changing lanes. We took a few breaks to stop and guzzle down some water to keep from dehydrating. We pulled into the storage lot at 10:30 pm ($40 per month super cheap). I didn't get a chance to do much today, I had to work most of the day. Tomorrow we are going to try our luck at removing seats. We hope to have this ready before the winter hits.

Can anyone tell me a fair price for a bus like this?
2000 International 300 72 pass with a DT466E and a Allison 545 transmission?

We'll keep you posted,

Joe and Desaray

I tried to upload some pictures but I keep getting "Upload Failed". I checked the file size and dimensions and everything looks good. I'll try again in the morning.
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Old 07-15-2016, 11:44 PM   #2
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The failed upload is probably because you are still a new member; it should allow you after a few posts.

My insurance is also through Progressive, similar policy but more like $30-40 a month. This could be because I live in a rural area, and said it would remain within 50 miles and see very little use each year. Also it is parked in a secured storage lot.
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Old 07-16-2016, 06:54 AM   #3
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Hello all,

We found her!! We purchased this beauty yesterday. We made the 2 hour haul south to Hillburn NY where hunk of metal was parked on a grassy hill. We had a heavy vehicle road service mechanic hook the computer up to check everything out. He also checked over the frame, brakes, transition, tires and anything else he could get his hands on ($$$). After about an hour look ever he gave me the the thumbs up. We negotiated the price a little, shortly after had the title in hand on the way to the local DMV. On the way to the DMV I called progressive insurance. I ended up getting a commercial policy for personal use for $1300 per year (Any suggestions to get a cheaper policy would be greatly appreciated) the the DMV went surprisingly well other thank the 2 hour wait. With a little sweet talking I got her re-titled as a van with regular plates and a 10 day inspection. By the time we got back to the bus it was 8pm. Now that it has been re-titled I dont need a CDL to drive it in New York(correct me if I'm wrong). I hopped in the drivers throne and made the maiden voyage 100 miles north. I've never driven such a large vehicle before so I was extra careful and had Desaray keeping and eye out for me when I was changing lanes. We took a few breaks to stop and guzzle down some water to keep from dehydrating. We pulled into the storage lot at 10:30 pm ($40 per month super cheap). I didn't get a chance to do much today, I had to work most of the day. Tomorrow we are going to try our luck at removing seats. We hope to have this ready before the winter hits.

Can anyone tell me a fair price for a bus like this?
2000 International 300 72 pass with a DT466E and a Allison 545 transmission?

We'll keep you posted,

Joe and Desaray

I tried to upload some pictures but I keep getting "Upload Failed". I checked the file size and dimensions and everything looks good. I'll try again in the morning.
Once your post count is up to five or ten you can post pics.
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Old 07-16-2016, 09:00 AM   #4
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Congratulations!

As the proud owner of a 1999 International Genesis with the same engine and transmission that you just purchased, I can say that I'm very excited for you! Driving sure is different when you're behind the wheel of your bus, isn't it?

You asked what a fair price would be, and I don't know about fair, but we paid $2025 for ours through publicsurplus.com. It seemed like a steal to me, but we had the second of two bids on her, and the first was for the base price - I only had to offer $25 more to win her.

We have our insurance through The Hartford, and pay under $500/year. Again, a pretty good deal as far as I can tell.

Good luck and have fun!
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Old 07-16-2016, 09:08 AM   #5
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As the proud owner of a 1999 International Genesis with the same engine and transmission that you just purchased, I can say that I'm very excited for you! Driving sure is different when you're behind the wheel of your bus, isn't it?

You asked what a fair price would be, and I don't know about fair, but we paid $2025 for ours through publicsurplus.com. It seemed like a steal to me, but we had the second of two bids on her, and the first was for the base price - I only had to offer $25 more to win her.

We have our insurance through The Hartford, and pay under $500/year. Again, a pretty good deal as far as I can tell.

Good luck and have fun!
Sounds like me. I paid $2150 for my 1992 Ward Senator which was what they called the AmTran Genesis. My insurance is around $700 a year.
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Old 07-16-2016, 06:25 PM   #6
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Thank for all of the input.

I paid $2400 for the Bus it came with 2 Brand new batteries and 3/4 tank of fuel. The guy selling it told me the batteries had been taken in for the winter so they would not freeze and he could not locate them. Lucky for me I bought the bus at a Bus repair center so he gave me 2 brand new ones. It looks like I should be shopping around for a lower price for insurance though.

Since it has been titles a "van" can I insure it non-commercial?

We started to take the seats out this morning before work. It looks like we will need a grinder, we tried conventional ratchets and an impact driver, both with little luck. After 2 hours we didn't even have one seat out. The trouble is the lot we have it parked in does not have a power supply. We will hopefully be getting a generator from my father so we can run a grinder. Next step would be gutting the floor, walls and ceiling. After that my dad has a connect in the spray foam industry so we will have the entire inside foamed.

How much closed cell foam will I need and where?
I assume the ceiling is the biggest heat loss so maybe 2-3 inches.
The walls maybe 2 inches
The floor maybe 2 inches.
We plan to winter in it near Buffalo NY so we are in for a cold one.


We also plan on getting either a propane marine heater or maybe a diesel marine heater. I've seen a few but they are real pricey. Any suggestions on finding a used one or a cheaper option would be great.
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Winter in Buffalo? Full-timing in a skoolie? I would go 3" up & down. 2" on the walls. Two-part, closed-cell spray foam is the general winner for insulation. I would skin both exterior sides and drop a few double pane windows in place. Make sure you have a solid, dry heat source.

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Old 07-16-2016, 07:11 PM   #8
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Thank for all of the input.

I paid $2400 for the Bus it came with 2 Brand new batteries and 3/4 tank of fuel. The guy selling it told me the batteries had been taken in for the winter so they would not freeze and he could not locate them. Lucky for me I bought the bus at a Bus repair center so he gave me 2 brand new ones. It looks like I should be shopping around for a lower price for insurance though.

Since it has been titles a "van" can I insure it non-commercial?

We started to take the seats out this morning before work. It looks like we will need a grinder, we tried conventional ratchets and an impact driver, both with little luck. After 2 hours we didn't even have one seat out. The trouble is the lot we have it parked in does not have a power supply. We will hopefully be getting a generator from my father so we can run a grinder. Next step would be gutting the floor, walls and ceiling. After that my dad has a connect in the spray foam industry so we will have the entire inside foamed.

How much closed cell foam will I need and where?
I assume the ceiling is the biggest heat loss so maybe 2-3 inches.
The walls maybe 2 inches
The floor maybe 2 inches.
We plan to winter in it near Buffalo NY so we are in for a cold one.


We also plan on getting either a propane marine heater or maybe a diesel marine heater. I've seen a few but they are real pricey. Any suggestions on finding a used one or a cheaper option would be great.
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Old 07-16-2016, 10:08 PM   #9
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Right on! I can feel your excitement from here

Yes now that it is a Van you may get regular insurance, and it will be much cheeper.
Nice you got an inside track with the foam people. Can't beat that. Guessing you all plan to live in the bus? You just gave me a great idea; i am smack bad in the city and had been concerned about my wood stove for winter; surely people will notice a chimney pluming out wood smoke, but not so much if i go with a propane heater. Will look into that once it goes below 80 lol

Congrats!

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Old 07-17-2016, 07:49 AM   #10
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Carytowncat,

I will be calling around for insurance on Monday. Also lucky for us we are Browning a generator for a week. We will be able to use real power tools the help remove the seats. The battery operated ones just are not nearly as aggressive and will take us for ever. We are hoping to move into it in the next 2 months finished or not. The main priority is insulation and heat. The rest we can do while we are living in it. After the seats are out we will get a quote for the foam work.

I listed in a previous comment how much foam we plan on doing. I was hoping for some feedback.
Has anyone wintered in one of these buses?
What mistakes did you make?
What kind of heater is best?

Thank you,

Joe and Desaray
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