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Old 11-29-2018, 03:47 PM   #1
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2005 IC FE300 (Ski Bus Build)

I recently purchased a 2005 International FE300 bus with a DT466 and I am converting it to be used as a ski bus.
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Old 11-29-2018, 04:06 PM   #2
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Dickinson Solid Fuel Heater installed through wheelchair door.
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Old 11-29-2018, 08:21 PM   #3
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That is one ingenious way to install a solid fuel heater. No chance of water leaking in through a roof cut and if you anticipate hassle from inspection or insurance agent it can be removed in minutes.

Coincidentally, I just snatched one of these little heaters off ebay. I plan to use a Webasto combustion heater for utility heating and the Dickinson for ambiance like a fireplace.
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Old 11-29-2018, 09:04 PM   #4
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That is one ingenious way to install a solid fuel heater. No chance of water leaking in through a roof cut and if you anticipate hassle from inspection or insurance agent it can be removed in minutes.

Coincidentally, I just snatched one of these little heaters off ebay. I plan to use a Webasto combustion heater for utility heating and the Dickinson for ambiance like a fireplace.
Awesome! Yes, the Dickinson is going to be great for the ambiance but you will set with the Webasto.

I picked up a Sig 250 stove/oven for the main heat source. I am currently installing it so when it is complete I will post some pics of that as well.

Cheers!
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Honestly, I do NOT want to rain on your parade but that would be about the last bus I would choose as a ski bus.

If I am not mistaken, that is a flat floor bus. With a flat floor you really can't use regular tire chains. The only chains that will work would be something like OnSpot automatic tire chains. https://www.onspot.com/en-US/

In addition, most Type 'D' FE buses are about as handy on ice and snow as a cow on ice. With so much weight forward it is really, really hard to get enough weight on the drive axle to get any traction. It is only going to be exacerbated with a big engine like the DT466 providing power. It is going to be about as handy as a Mustang with a HO 5.0L or a Corvette.

It appears as if you have found a really nice bus.

Good luck with it up in the snow.
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Old 11-30-2018, 09:05 AM   #6
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Honestly, I do NOT want to rain on your parade but that would be about the last bus I would choose as a ski bus.

If I am not mistaken, that is a flat floor bus. With a flat floor you really can't use regular tire chains. The only chains that will work would be something like OnSpot automatic tire chains. https://www.onspot.com/en-US/

In addition, most Type 'D' FE buses are about as handy on ice and snow as a cow on ice. With so much weight forward it is really, really hard to get enough weight on the drive axle to get any traction. It is only going to be exacerbated with a big engine like the DT466 providing power. It is going to be about as handy as a Mustang with a HO 5.0L or a Corvette.

It appears as if you have found a really nice bus.

Good luck with it up in the snow.
Could you please elaborate on why conventional chains would not work on an flat floor vehicle.
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Old 11-30-2018, 09:25 AM   #7
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Honestly, I do NOT want to rain on your parade but that would be about the last bus I would choose as a ski bus.

If I am not mistaken, that is a flat floor bus. With a flat floor you really can't use regular tire chains. The only chains that will work would be something like OnSpot automatic tire chains. https://www.onspot.com/en-US/

In addition, most Type 'D' FE buses are about as handy on ice and snow as a cow on ice. With so much weight forward it is really, really hard to get enough weight on the drive axle to get any traction. It is only going to be exacerbated with a big engine like the DT466 providing power. It is going to be about as handy as a Mustang with a HO 5.0L or a Corvette.

It appears as if you have found a really nice bus.

Good luck with it up in the snow.

Cowlitzcoach,

Thank you for your insight and honesty. When I found the bus I was stoked about the ground clearance and the engine but now that you spell it out, I can not disagree. Probably the worst choice for the snow...

Question though. What about a flat floor bus makes regular tire chains not an option?
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Old 11-30-2018, 09:27 AM   #8
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maybe he is thinking wheel well clearance for chains? install and also side clearance near the top of the well as the suspension flexes?



as for weight.. id think an FE with lots of eqiuipment in the rear would give you a decent balance



whats funny is you got a nice top of the line Air-Conditioner on that bus and its only ever going to be driven in the winter
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Old 11-30-2018, 09:35 AM   #9
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Awesome! Yes, the Dickinson is going to be great for the ambiance but you will set with the Webasto.

I picked up a Sig 250 stove/oven for the main heat source. I am currently installing it so when it is complete I will post some pics of that as well.

Cheers!
Those diesel drip stoves/ovens are great. Silent and not needing any electricity.

As a student, I volunteered for the NPS in Glacier Bay, AK. The patrol boat I was assigned to had one of theses stoves. Surrounded by the freshest seafood you can imagine and with plenty of time on our hands between assignments we prepared one gourmet meal after the other while the stove was keeping us cozy in the often cold/wet weather.

You may want to take a little propane stove for the summer since the stove/oven combo will heat the room whether you like it or not.
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Old 11-30-2018, 09:40 AM   #10
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maybe he is thinking wheel well clearance for chains? install and also side clearance near the top of the well as the suspension flexes?



as for weight.. id think an FE with lots of eqiuipment in the rear would give you a decent balance



whats funny is you got a nice top of the line Air-Conditioner on that bus and its only ever going to be driven in the winter
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I appreciate the optimism! I am too far in to turn back now so let's hope the added weight does get me up the hill!

As far as the a/c, I will be using this bus in the summer as well so a/c was on the wish list.

Cheers!
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