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Old 04-16-2012, 03:23 PM   #91
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Re: 2012... The Year of Renewal

We are planning to do a murphy bed style thing in the master bedroom. We are going to make the bedroom convertible into a garage. The bed is going to split in the middle and fold up to the walls on each side. This way, we can haul bikes, the grill, etc, and offload them out the rear emergency door, then drop the bed halves and be done. Will have to see how it comes out.
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Old 04-16-2012, 05:23 PM   #92
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I don't have much experience with piano hinges, but they seem kinda flimsy to me. I suppose the number of attachment points makes up for the thin metal, but I'll be curious to hear back in the future how well it holds up over time. I do like your concept for the murphy bed though - I considered it myself, but it wouldn't have worked with my floorplan.
I agree the hinge metal seems flimsy, but I attribute it to the extreme length. Once it was attached it was very rigid. And you are correct, because the weight is evenly distributed over a long area, it can support more than one might suspect. How it is attached is important too. I attached the hinge so that forces would be pulling not only on the screw head, but against the length of each screw in the wood.


But don't worry. No matter how well placed, I'm paranoid enough to not trust a single 6' hinge to support my 200lb butt! I'm also adding legs to the base that will provide 90% of the support. They will also be hinged so they fall flat against the bed when it's against the wall, but swing down into the support position when it's lowered.
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:06 PM   #93
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And finally, here are a couple of videos from this weekend's "murphy bed build".

PART 1
[flash=480,360:1wdf4zbv]http://www.youtube.com/v/FuIa2qEJRDc?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0[/flash:1wdf4zbv]

PART 2
[flash=480,360:1wdf4zbv]http://www.youtube.com/v/djspDj6ZxUs?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0[/flash:1wdf4zbv]
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:42 AM   #94
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Your bus is coming along nicely...and the videos are top notch! Very good quality all around.
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Old 04-18-2012, 08:24 PM   #95
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Put down some more flooring today. Can't go any farther until I get help moving that generator, though, so I'm at a stand still.

I did get a couple of latches installed to hold the murphy bed in the up position against the wall. I used two of these:


They work like a charm! They seem to hold okay, but if I get worried about the road bouncing them up, I can put a little cotter pin in place to hold the latch shut.

My next big project after finishing the floor will be to search for plumbing supplies. That's going to take some research, but I'm looking forward to starting in on it.
I was kinda thinking about using this for the tub/shower pan:


I was also looking at the agricultural tanks as a fresh water tank.


The only thing that concerns me with this one is how to install the fill hose. Would I drill a hole in the top cap and run the fill hose through it? Or would it be better to just open the thing and drag a hose in from the window?
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:14 AM   #96
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i think you should drill the appropriate size hole and epoxy a fitting in for both the fill and the small vent line. the fill should be something like 1 1/2 inch in diameter, and the vent something like 3/8" or better. not to mention.. screen on end of vent, and cap on fill.... just my two cents...
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Every open ended hose on my bus had been taken over by mud daubbers while it sat. And they don't vent worth a darn when filled with the cement those little critters make.
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If that tank is polyethylene, epoxy won't stick. Nothing will stick. There are fittings made for polyethylene, but they are usually a compression fit. You would need the fittings first to ensure you drill the exact proper size hole.
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Quickie video showing the latches I used to keep the bed up against the wall.

[flash=640,360:1vn4ct5k]http://www.youtube.com/v/2fQibVknyZ8?version=3&feature[/flash:1vn4ct5k]
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screen on end of vent
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Every open ended hose on my bus had been taken over by mud daubbers while it sat. And they don't vent worth a darn when filled with the cement those little critters make.
Dirt daubbers LOVE refrigerators on RVs to the Nth degree. Its why I built a removable screen (using a regular DIY screen kit) to lay inside the huge bottom vent/access panel. I'm not sure why they like them so much. But they even like the electric dorm fridge/freezer we had. But a little judicious use of window screening is a good deterrent.
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