4 Curious Georges' 2001 Saf-T-Liner

[david.dgeorge07]

Guess what I'm up to? ...after recovering from sticker shock.

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[cadillackid]

Well crap I wish I knew you were going to use that I have 5 gallons of the stuff I'll never use

[brokedown]

BTW - Walmart sells Rotella in a 5 gallon jug.

When I changed mhy oil (somewhere in Missouri) I bought a plain white 5 gallon bucket from Walmart and took a few shifts o draining into a oil pan that would fit under the bus and then pouring it into the bucket. I left it as a gift for the fine folks at AutonZone under cover of darkness. Ok it wasn't actually dark it was noon but I gently placed it next to their oil recovery tank and said the magic words "thanks fellas" as I drove away.

Putting the new oil in was interesting, My bus is a stub nose, so half the engine is in a doghouse inside the bus. I put down a few plastic trash bags as tarps and used a complex system of dipping a red solo cup into the new oil and then pouring it into the not quite long or wide enough funnel. The additives in the oil are all totally great for your skin and won't cause a variety of cancers at all.

I actually tried to get Walmart to do my oil change. I told them it was just like a F350 only it needd way more oil, but they were really scared to touch a vehicle that they couldn't look up in their computer. Rather than give them years of nightmares I decided do do it myself.

[david.dgeorge07]

Well it isn't too late! I'm sure I could take some back! Guessing the shipping would probably be steep though. Buying locally was cheaper than ordering online because of that. Btw why aren't you using yours?

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[david.dgeorge07]

@ brokedown your oil change sounds worse than mine! I got caught in the rain, but all that solo cup action sounds even more miserable!

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[cadillackid]

Curios -,I ended up using a poly organic synthetic coolant. In the 7.3s there have been reported issues with standard ELC coolants, supposedly the later versions were ok if which mine is listed as ok but I took no chance and installed amsoil synthetic coolant which also had a better coefficient of heat.. when I did my cooling update I needed ever bit I could get.. now with my new trans the thing cools fantastic..

I also looked at using the final charge in my DEV bus but navistar dealer said no in a DT360... so I have 5 gallons in my garage
Christopher

[LectricLance]

Yes the switch with the faucet is for electric heater circulation pump, to help keep the kids warm in subzero areas. I drove schoolbus for awhile and they said have it on during the winter. My bus has wires ran with the coolant lines for the heater blower fan motors.

[david.dgeorge07]

Everything I can find seems to suggest that final charge is the best coolant for my cat 3126b. I also have a new coolant filter with the rattling briquettes of extender inside. Does anyone see a problem with using these products together?

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[cadillackid]

if you are using an ELC coolant like finalcharge you need a blank coolant filter and not one with the SCA's.. too much SCA's settle out and clog up the cooling system.

I run the blank filter in my Bluebird with the AMSoil coolant.. I dont have the part number off hand or if the same one fits.. but I can get it when im over at the bus later today to drive it if you want.

-Christopher

[cadillackid]

you also want to COMPLETELY flush your system down to go from the green or other ELC into finalcharge... I flushed mine completely to clear water.. then blew air hose through it.. then wasted several gallons of distilled water to flush through.. blew the system with an air hose.. (DONT BLOW WITH AN AIR HOSE ON FULL PRESSURE!!!!!) I had my air set at 15 PSI regulator and used a high volume air nozzle. and of course has a place for the water to flow out.. in my case I flushed while replacing the water pump and steaming the radiator so it was easier to flush.

-Christopher

[david.dgeorge07]

Mine is already red, but planning to flush regardless.

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[cadillackid]

its red coolant and has the filter with the tablets in it? I had thought there were no additives required for red coolants

[david.dgeorge07]

Currently red coolant. Not sure if current filter has tablets, but when I ordered new one based on part # written on filter, it DOES have tablets. Haven't done the flush and fill yet.

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[david.dgeorge07]

If you have that filter# that would be great. Finding it difficult to find part #s.

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[david.dgeorge07]

Seems the original CAT number is filter 112369, but that is for a filter with tablets. In reading the Thomas manual for the vehicle and other sources it confirms that ELC coolants should not be used with the tablets, and that a filter is not needed in a system that uses ELC coolants. The Peak website also confirms that filters/tablets should not be used with Peak Final Charge. So far I'm unable to locate one of these blank filters and am considering leaving the current filter in place if the tablets are fully dissolved.

Any help/part numbers would be helpful. Pretty sure the bus is currently running both an ELC and coolant filter with tablets.

[cadillackid]

Here is the filter I'm using. If you find a napa number for your filter via search and then look it up , under features and benefits they may list the non chemical version, that's how I found mine.
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/FIL4070
Christopher

[david.dgeorge07]

Could not find a cross listing online, but found their version of the filter I have. I think with the info and filter that I have in hand, if I go to the store they can probably get me figured out. Thanks for the help!

[david.dgeorge07]

Napa got me hooked up with no problem. Spent most if my time working on the subfloor today though. Coolant next.

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[david.dgeorge07]

Is the plug to the right of the lower radiator hose what I should pull to start my flush and fill?

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[cadillackid]

4071 is a chemical SCA filter .... not a blank.
You are the one installing finalcharge, correct?
Christopher