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Old 05-23-2016, 02:18 AM   #1
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'87 IH Carpenter Project

Well, after uploading pics (Finally!) and some basic stuff, I figured it was time to start a thread for it. Let's see if I can make the pics work ..... On second thought, how about just linking the album? http://www.skoolie.net/forums/member...albums931.html

Work needed upon purchase:
Lettering and decals removed.
Throttle pedal bracket loose.
Throttle control handle not returning to low idle.
Hoses, belts (part numbers). Also, shut off valves for heater hoses.
Oil, fuel, air filter part #'s.
Oil pressure showing 100+ on startup.
Left Wiper too long/hitting top of windshield.
Windshield washer tubes, etc.
(Eventually) refrigerant in A/C systems.
(Eventually) 22.5 rims for rear axle.
Battery hold-downs? Cables for 3rd battery?
Left upper tail/brake light inoperative.
Check back-up lights.
Check/fix left rear red alt. flasher (low priority).
Check indicator lights in instrument cluster, also dash lights in same. Left turn and high-beam indicators both inoperative.
(Eventually) RGB LED's for dash lights.
Dome light - one bulb burned out.
TITLE - SC title has one VIN digit missing. GA wants title corrected and re-issued.

Work done so far:
1/2 lettering/decals removed. Adhesive remains.
Throttle handle is intended for idling-up the engine when parked. I can push it in but the engine does not idle-down by itself. If I lift the throttle with my foot, it returns to normal. I'm not worried about this for now.
Parking Brake - Adjusted (Hopefully).
Oil Pressure Sensor - purchased, installed, but the nut holding the wire on the old one would not loosen (stud turned with it) ... so ... I now need to crimp a new end on the wire for the new sending unit.
LED S/T/T, marker, clearance lights - purchased, to be installed. The "lower" brake lights still work, I plan to replace them with LED versions at some point
Dash lights - indicators replaced as needed, lights still being addressed.
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Old 05-23-2016, 06:58 AM   #2
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Old 05-23-2016, 07:56 AM   #3
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Does the A/C still work? SWEET if it does!!!!
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Your bus has probably already received more prayers and blessings than any of the rest of our buses. Looking good.
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Old 05-23-2016, 02:31 PM   #5
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A/C systems (there are 2) both work, the compressors kicked in when tested. Front one cycled on/off. Haven't checked refrigerant charge yet, but systems are said to use R134A which will make servicing much easier. They are obviously a retrofit, probably done when the church picked it up in '98, which was when R134A was the available refrigerant.
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Old 05-23-2016, 08:37 PM   #6
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awesdome bus!!! almosrt like mine.. onkly years is longer and you dont have to install A/C.. in 98 it was probably a TransAir or a Carrier that was put into it... most likely 2 compressors running it...

Nice lookin Bus!
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Old 05-23-2016, 09:49 PM   #7
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You are correct, it has 2 belt driven compressors ... is it odd that *BOTH* are mounted *UNDER* the engine? In the view from the front (favoring the driver's side) a shield can be seen coming down from the bumper.
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Old 05-23-2016, 10:03 PM   #8
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yes the dual compressor bracket kits run them under the engine... I didnt see which engine you have.. but if its a DT360 / DT466 then that motor was designed from the factory to be ordered wit ha single compressor top mount .. a tecumseh / york style... IH made a similar truck cab on the same enginbe as the Bus.. it could be ordered factory A/C).. back when your bus was built there was no bracket to use an axial compressor like a Sankyo (sanden) style.. TransAir came up with a dual compressor mount kit.. and was the same bracket kit regardless of whether the enging was ordered with or without air brakes, and with or without factory A/C...

their bracket kit could work even if the bus had dash air.. (VERY FEW) busses were ever ordered with a dash A/C...

Carpenter may have offered it as an option afyer the 86 redesign as part of the defrost.. at least I believe the one carpenter I rode to school in 86 (brand new) the driver used to run the console heater and defrost and it blew cool air to help keep her cool (but was designed for defogging)..

however my 1991 Carpenter has No provision for factory switches stating anything with factory A/C.. HOWEVER my ENGINE already has a seltecc / sanden mounting Boss on it at the top next to the air brakes compressor.. even has a free belt groove.

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Old 05-23-2016, 10:10 PM   #9
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Tsk, tsk. Engine photos are in the album, and the basic bus specs should be next to each post. It's the IH 9 liter engine. "Controls", if they could be called that, consist of rotary knobs retrofitted below the heater switches which basically turn the blowers Off/Low/Medium/High. The interior photos show the overhead units, I see no evidence anything was fitted into the original heat/defrost units. Since the systems are said to use R134 refrigerant, I am guessing they were installed after the early 90's phase-out of R12.
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Old 05-23-2016, 10:17 PM   #10
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Tsk, tsk. Engine photos are in the album, and the basic bus specs should be next to each post. It's the IH 9 liter engine. "Controls", if they could be called that, consist of rotary knobs retrofitted below the heater switches which basically turn the blowers Off/Low/Medium/High. The interior photos show the overhead units, I see no evidence anything was fitted into the original heat/defrost units. Since the systems are said to use R134 refrigerant, I am guessing they were installed after the early 90's phase-out of R12.

yeah I didnrt look at the album fully.. for some reason my OSX firefox and the forum album dont like each other..

yes Yours are definitelty aftermarket units..I only ever saw ONE carpenter that had the wierd heater with A/C,. it may have been an aftermarket retrofit.. I did it to my last bus so it was possible.. R-134A was mandated for after market units as of 1995..(96 model requured) and no one released it a day sooner in the aftermarket... from the factory cars had it as of 93 for some..

it could also be your system was retrofitted with R-134A.. it was pretty easy to do... change the oil in the compressor.. do a flush, put on the R-134A fittings, Tag it, Label it with the amount and type of refrigerant prominently and thats it..

I do know my heater units are a clogged up mess of dirt and grime.. so every last one of them is coming completely disassembled and rebuilt at the same time i install my A/C

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