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03-17-2013, 10:11 AM
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#281
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Olympia, Washington
Posts: 557
Year: 87
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International s1700
Engine: 6.9 internatiional
Rated Cap: 65
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Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI
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Originally Posted by bus-bro
I don't know about your bus, but my BB AA the door hardware and door are well engineered. It would take a sledge hammer, with a few blows to break through the door when I set that bus door handle all the way forward. The lock to latch the door when I exit has some problems though. What I'm trying to say is that some school bus doors are actually pretty damn good.
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bus-bro, the door on my Wayne is very strong. some of its problems are that when locked using the handle, if a person were to actually pull on the door instead of pushing on it, the handle will pop out of the locked position allowing the door to then be pushed open. the other problems i see it that i don't see enough space in the metal in which to put a dead bolt, and its shorter than the door frame with the difference being made up with the big rubber gasket, which would make a dead bolt useless. i love the four windows on it though, and the solid steel construction. hmmm if i could find a way to make it a swing out door, close enough to the door frame to accept a dead bolt, and a way install a screen i would probably keep it.
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03-17-2013, 05:07 PM
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#282
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Ohio
Posts: 57
Year: 2002
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9 Cmmins
Rated Cap: 71
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Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI
Here is the factory lock we have on buses on our district. Its simple but effective.most are direct on tumbler assembly others use solenoid with key switch on door post.
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03-17-2013, 09:13 PM
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#283
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Olympia, Washington
Posts: 557
Year: 87
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International s1700
Engine: 6.9 internatiional
Rated Cap: 65
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Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI
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Originally Posted by go00nascar
Here is the factory lock we have on buses on our district. Its simple but effective.most are direct on tumbler assembly others use solenoid with key switch on door post.
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This is good information. probably more useful to bus-bro. i wish there was something similar out there for Wayne buses.
thanks
Eric
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03-18-2013, 12:07 AM
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#284
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 1,489
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/AT545
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Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI
I figure I will have to add some material to the door frame to get the original bus door to work. I'm hoping that a strip of 2" angle iron will do the trick. Dang I'd really like to learn how to weld!
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03-18-2013, 12:56 AM
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#285
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Olympia, Washington
Posts: 557
Year: 87
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International s1700
Engine: 6.9 internatiional
Rated Cap: 65
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Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI
Dan, i would like to learn how to weld as well. it would make things a lot easier. you brought up a good idea. if i can replace the rubber gasket with 2 inches of steel somehow i could add a dead bolt to that. then i could reuse the bus door.
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03-18-2013, 08:20 AM
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#286
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 1,489
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/AT545
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Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI
Yes, either the door needs to be wider or the opening smaller. I think making the opening smaller may be the easier and more stable option.
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03-18-2013, 08:26 AM
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#287
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Andrews,Indiana
Posts: 2,437
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: AARE
Engine: 3116 Cat 250hp
Rated Cap: Just the two of us.
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Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI
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i would like to learn how to weld as well
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Check with the local schools. I took a night class 40 years ago, most useful class I ever took.
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04-08-2013, 09:51 PM
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#288
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Olympia, Washington
Posts: 557
Year: 87
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International s1700
Engine: 6.9 internatiional
Rated Cap: 65
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Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI
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04-10-2013, 08:35 AM
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#289
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 1,489
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/AT545
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Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI
Nice! I need to get some screens in place soon as well - bug season is just about here in Central TX.
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04-10-2013, 09:46 AM
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#290
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Olympia, Washington
Posts: 557
Year: 87
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International s1700
Engine: 6.9 internatiional
Rated Cap: 65
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Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diesel Dan
Nice! I need to get some screens in place soon as well - bug season is just about here in Central TX.
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yes, and Dan, you guys have a real bug season down there. i noticed last year that flies and stinging insects tend to be attracted to the open windows of my bus. at least we don't have some of the larger bugs i remember from living in the midwest.
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04-10-2013, 03:47 PM
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#291
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bakersfield, California
Posts: 1,013
Year: 1976
Coachwork: Crown
Chassis: Supercoach
Engine: Detroit 6-71 Mid-Ship Mounted
Rated Cap: 79 at Birth
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Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI
Very nice job on those screens!
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04-11-2013, 08:59 AM
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#292
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Olympia, Washington
Posts: 557
Year: 87
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International s1700
Engine: 6.9 internatiional
Rated Cap: 65
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Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI
thanks Guys, i have a new method of holding in the screens i may try, ill keep you all posted
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04-11-2013, 10:15 AM
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#293
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 1,489
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/AT545
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Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI
I think it would be nice if the screens were easily removable without tools, but I'm not sure how that could be accomplished in a mobile application with high winds. I think Lorna put her screens on the inside maybe for that reason. Hmmm...
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04-11-2013, 10:38 AM
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#294
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diesel Dan
I think it would be nice if the screens were easily removable without tools, but I'm not sure how that could be accomplished in a mobile application with high winds. I think Lorna put her screens on the inside maybe for that reason. Hmmm...
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04-11-2013, 01:54 PM
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#295
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ellijay ga
Posts: 560
Year: 94
Coachwork: b/b
Chassis: tc2000
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI
i have one of them locks on my b/b if anybody needs to buy one,, and ill make a key for it $20.00 + shipping just pm me
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04-12-2013, 09:17 AM
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#296
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Olympia, Washington
Posts: 557
Year: 87
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International s1700
Engine: 6.9 internatiional
Rated Cap: 65
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Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diesel Dan
I think it would be nice if the screens were easily removable without tools, but I'm not sure how that could be accomplished in a mobile application with high winds. I think Lorna put her screens on the inside maybe for that reason. Hmmm...
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i agree Dan, I'm just afraid of them falling off and blowing into other vehicles. the way i have them right now you just loosen 4 screws, move the retainers and the screen will come out. the new method I'm looking int will use smaller, thinner pieces of metal under the window retention metal strips. ill post pictures once it is done.
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04-15-2013, 12:50 AM
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#297
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Olympia, Washington
Posts: 557
Year: 87
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International s1700
Engine: 6.9 internatiional
Rated Cap: 65
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Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI
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04-15-2013, 09:44 AM
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#298
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Roswell, NM
Posts: 3,588
Year: 1986
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: 40 ft All American FE
Engine: 8.2LTA Fuel Pincher DD V8
Rated Cap: 89
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Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diesel Dan
... I'm not sure how that could be accomplished in a mobile application with high winds. I think Lorna put her screens on the inside maybe for that reason. Hmmm...
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Yep!
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04-15-2013, 09:50 PM
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#299
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Olympia, Washington
Posts: 557
Year: 87
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International s1700
Engine: 6.9 internatiional
Rated Cap: 65
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Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI
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05-13-2013, 09:21 PM
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#300
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Olympia, Washington
Posts: 557
Year: 87
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International s1700
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Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI
sealed my broken glass solar panel i bought on ebay with bar top epoxy.
made a dam with tape poured the resin in and smoothed it out:
its still drying, but it has leveled out to be much smoother than in this photo. it also filled in and subdued the cracks in the glass.
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