Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 09-06-2013, 11:06 AM   #391
Mini-Skoolie
 
CHEESE_WAGON's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 39
Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI

Quote:
Originally Posted by proconsul100
thanks Cheese Wagon, that battery shone here was an old emergency lighting battery i got from work, but it wouldn't charge up. so i got rid of it. perhaps it came from sitting on the ground for so long
BTW -- NICE progress on the bus! Like the way those rims turned out, I was thinking the exact same thing, that they needed some color... I might have gone for the bumpers and grille too, though, just for accents... But to each their own...
__________________
"Cheese Wagon" <anomaly1976@inbox.com>

Former owner - 1989 Ford B700 BlueBird 64 passenger (Rest In Peace, Cheese Wagon)

Check out my original music page ("Allergic To Air" on Facebook) and YouTube channel (AllergicToAirMusic)
CHEESE_WAGON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2013, 11:48 AM   #392
Bus Crazy
 
ol trunt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 1,962
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI

Thanks Somewhere for setting the record straight on the battery thing. I see that there are still a few who cling to the earth is flat idea as well
ol trunt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2013, 12:57 PM   #393
Mini-Skoolie
 
CHEESE_WAGON's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 39
Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI

Quote:
Originally Posted by ol trunt
Thanks Somewhere for setting the record straight on the battery thing. I see that there are still a few who cling to the earth is flat idea as well
Can only speak from my own experience...
__________________
"Cheese Wagon" <anomaly1976@inbox.com>

Former owner - 1989 Ford B700 BlueBird 64 passenger (Rest In Peace, Cheese Wagon)

Check out my original music page ("Allergic To Air" on Facebook) and YouTube channel (AllergicToAirMusic)
CHEESE_WAGON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2013, 02:57 PM   #394
Bus Nut
 
JakeC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: MN
Posts: 732
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 72
Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI

Here is my take. It is EXTREMELY hard to dispell beliefs like this, because even once they are disproven, people still see it happening. Better worded, they *think* they see it happening. Once a certain belief has taken root, everything that happens somehow backs it up. A battery is thrown (or gently placed, lol) on a shop floor and left there for a couple years. Someone goes to use it and it is shot. Clearly it is because it was on the floor and that wrecks batteries. Well, maybe not. Maybe it was already close to the end of it's life cycle. Maybe it was borderline discharged already and froze, maybe a gremlin came by and put a metal bar across the terminals. Who knows, my point is, there is no way to prove that this proves the theory. I'm the lead service tech for a company that builds automated packaging machines. I sit at a desk all day and help people get their machines running. If you call this company's tech support line, it goes straight to my desk. You wouldn't believe the things I hear, even from engineers. It is because once there is a pre-concieved idea, EVERYTHING goes through that filter. "If I hit the stop button 5 times, press the estop, open this gaurd door, pull the stop back out, and spin in a circle, this light comes on. Why?" Because the light comes on every 5 seconds and it took you 5 seconds to do all that. "No! It's because I blah, blah, blah..." Ok, I guess you know more about the machine than I do. Even though we built it. Even though I have full knowledge of the code. Even though I personally have worked on the section of code that we are talking about.

Ok, this is getting long winded, but you guys get my point. On a side note, EVERYONE needs a charger with an "equalizing" or similar mode. Very simply put, it cycles overcharging to revitalize the battery. I have salvaged several batteries this way. Even batteries that were frozen, but didn't crack the housing. My friends even know to bring me their "shot" batteries now, before they go buy new ones.
__________________
The journey is the destination...

Brutus
JakeC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2013, 03:44 PM   #395
Bus Nut
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Southern Maine
Posts: 337
Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI

Quote:
Originally Posted by JakeC
Here is my take. It is EXTREMELY hard to dispell beliefs like this, because even once they are disproven, people still see it happening. Better worded, they *think* they see it happening. Once a certain belief has taken root, everything that happens somehow backs it up. A battery is thrown (or gently placed, lol) on a shop floor and left there for a couple years. Someone goes to use it and it is shot. Clearly it is because it was on the floor and that wrecks batteries. Well, maybe not. Maybe it was already close to the end of it's life cycle. Maybe it was borderline discharged already and froze, maybe a gremlin came by and put a metal bar across the terminals.
I think we, as a society, have gotten into the belief that people NEED to be set straight and that this is "helpful" to them. They NEED to be made to understand blah blah blah ( insert "incorrect" folksy belief) is wrong and modern science has fixed that! But please consider this alternative option for dealing with these folksy ideas. Use this filter before correcting and/or condemning the ideas to Thunderdome! Does this folksy practice hurt anyone? Does it matter if someone cracks a window in their vehicle for "venting"? Does it matter if someone prefers not to leave batteries on concrete? If they come back to a vehicle with all the windows intact and they are happy with the result does it affect you? Do you really care if someone wants to put a battery on a wooden block? or styrofoam spacer? or hunk of left-over steak cut from the left side of a north facing cow harvested at dawn on the summer solstice of an odd numbered year? These things are really not worth the creation of the rifts and hard feelings that can be created with a "2 ideas enter, only 1 leaves" mentality. I personally don't put batteries on the floor. My reason is simple: my arms don't reach the floor. It is easier on my back to put them on a spacer of some sort so that I don't have to bend over. But my point still holds, there is no reason to continue beating this into someone's head.

Just Sayin'
Malkieri is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2013, 06:25 PM   #396
Bus Nut
 
JakeC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: MN
Posts: 732
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 72
Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI

Erg... I don't want to drag this out, cause I really don't care that much...just consider this and reread the posts and how we got on this subject. What happens when someone is trying to help and give advice, but they are emphatically stating an old wives tale as fact. That hinders the person with the problem and helps spread ignorance. I think it is important to correct/debate in that case. Just my opinion. I do see your point and feel it is valid. There are a couple here who seem to feel the need to correct EVERYTHING and share their vast wisdom. That gets annoying
__________________
The journey is the destination...

Brutus
JakeC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2013, 07:05 PM   #397
Bus Crazy
 
ol trunt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 1,962
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI

don't worry--be happy
ol trunt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2013, 08:17 PM   #398
Bus Nut
 
JakeC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: MN
Posts: 732
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 72
Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI

Haha!! Yup!!
__________________
The journey is the destination...

Brutus
JakeC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2013, 08:44 PM   #399
Bus Nut
 
wmkbailey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Frederick Maryland
Posts: 831
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Engine: 3126
Rated Cap: 72
Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI

I think if someone post an old wise tale to help someone whether right or wrong, so be it. Someone else post the facts, good. Then leave it alone. Let people make the choice. We are all trying to help each other and everyone will believe what they want to believe.

If some dispels something I posted, I leave it alone. I myself will check out what they say and make my own decision.

I like Malkieri put my batteries on hunk of left-over steak cut from the left side of a north facing cow harvested at dawn on the summer solstice of an odd numbered year, and it works every time.
__________________
William

visvi Cherokee for Journey, Sounds Like Oeesha

http://thejourneyvisvi.com/

My Conversion Thread:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=464989
wmkbailey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2013, 12:24 AM   #400
Bus Nut
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Olympia, Washington
Posts: 554
Year: 87
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International s1700
Engine: 6.9 internatiional
Rated Cap: 65
Re: 87 Wayne Lifeguard international S1700 CXXVI

wow, looks like a lot happened in here today. I'm shocked to learn batteries could be such a pain, but the information you guys gave me helps me stay current
proconsul100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
1984 International s1700 Fully Converted britnich84 Classifieds | Buy, Sell, Swap 6 12-08-2013 02:05 AM
service manual for 1987 Wayne Lifeguard proconsul100 Conversion General Discussions 2 07-10-2012 12:58 PM
CXXVI 87 Wayne lifestar International s1700 6.9 proconsul100 Skoolie Conversion Projects 1 07-10-2012 10:45 AM
1982 International "War-Hog" S1700 Sojakai Short-Bus Conversion Projects 22 05-28-2010 01:19 PM
International S1700 6.9 Diesel Info Needed Please woodyking Conversion Tutorials and How-to's 7 03-31-2008 03:31 PM

» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:35 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.