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06-14-2015, 08:21 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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My old 40' BB had acoustic panels over the driver/doghouse area and I had exactly what you fear...constantly raining tiny fiberglass particles. I covered mine with some thin backed carpet.
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06-14-2015, 11:25 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Gainesville. Georgia
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Year: 1992
Coachwork: bluebird
Rated Cap: 72
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Our BB has those same acoustic panels and I've been dying to know what they are there for.
So far nothings popping out of the holes yet.
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06-15-2015, 09:33 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
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Year: 1946
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All those tiny holes break up sound and less bounces back than with a smooth panel. Actually makes quite a bit of difference. The problem being that in many installations, the fiberglass batting is right behind it and after a while can begin filtering down through those same holes. Almost unnoticeable since only tiny fibers get through, but not anything you want to be breathing or have in a closed environment.
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06-15-2015, 01:14 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
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I hate the fiberglass crap with a passion.
The older it gets, the more it fragments and falls on you.
Same in home reno's. The older the stuff gets, it just turns to deadly dust when you try to remove it.
Once in you lungs or clothes, it never comes out. After all it's glass.
Nat
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06-15-2015, 01:47 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
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Year: 1946
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Have to wonder how long it will be before we are seeing lawyers on TV advertising big money for "victims of fiberglass insulation".
I'm convinced the crap is every bit as bad as asbestos and should be outlawed.
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06-15-2015, 03:12 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 502
Year: 92
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lol tango, i'm thinking the same thing. no matter where it gets on you, it is not safe. good thing we were wearing protective equipment when removing. I've found this recycled insulation that is denim, and has the same R-values as fiberglass insulation and you need no equipment to handle it and can breathe it safely. why they hadn't thought of this 30 years ago i don't know.... IF anyone hears of a class action lawsuit for fiberglass insulation let me know. lol.
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06-15-2015, 03:20 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
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Engine: Cat 3126
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as moldy as my fiberglass was, I would imagine denim to be quite a nightmare in a bus environment. Imagine the smell of a bunch of moldy levi's encapsulating you!
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06-15-2015, 03:29 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 502
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well there goes the denim idea, good point. Although my fiberglass was actually in great shape, no mold at all really just dust and spiders. I'm gonna have to dig into the insulation thread here and get some ideas.
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06-15-2015, 03:44 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia
Posts: 429
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The company is called Bonded Logic. The insulation is treated for mold etc resistance, and comes in interesting configurations. It looks like something you should try out and report back.
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06-15-2015, 04:07 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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from that page-
Quote:
UltraTouch contains an EPA registered fungal inhibitor to actively resist the growth of mold, fungi and bacteria.
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in a metal box like a bus, the condensation is going to be overwhelming for something like denim. Sure it may hold up for a spell, but its ORGANIC and will eventually mold.
This stuff is made for actual houses. For applications where actual fiberglass would work.
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06-15-2015, 04:10 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
from that page-
in a metal box like a bus, the condensation is going to be overwhelming for something like denim. Sure it may hold up for a spell, but its ORGANIC and will eventually mold.
This stuff is made for actual houses. For applications where actual fiberglass would work.
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Makes sense. Thanks for pointing that out!
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06-15-2015, 04:13 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Minnesota
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Hey thanks for the link! I've been searching for a site just like that. All the advice helps, thanks all and keep it coming.
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06-15-2015, 04:34 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
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06-15-2015, 07:31 PM
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#34
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
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I'm down for the lawsuit against fiberglass.
I also agree it is as bad as asbestos.
Here in Alberta Canada, guys working in modular home construction plants still don't wear any protective gear at all. No mask, coverall, glasses, ect.
Some guys lay in the stuff while having lunch.
Yuk
Nat
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06-15-2015, 07:39 PM
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Bus Nut
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Part of this Bus was made in Ontario. I cant believe they lay and eat in it...wow. hopefully they are laying on the paper side. lol.
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06-15-2015, 07:45 PM
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#36
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
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Year: 1992
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Chassis: TC2000 FE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BurlKing
Hopefully they are laying on the paper side. lol.
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No paper on the stuff we get here.
Raw fiberglass both sides.
Nat
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06-16-2015, 10:05 PM
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#37
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 502
Year: 92
Coachwork: Thomas Built
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Engine: DTA360 5.9L
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06-16-2015, 10:44 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 217
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas
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Engine: CAT 3126B250
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Ah, the beautiful sight of wiring chaos.
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07-05-2015, 07:32 PM
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#39
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 502
Year: 92
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Hi, haven't posted in a bit, so here's an update. Removed the rear wall interior panels, removed the linoleum on the stairs, and found there was no rust except a little patch where the door meets the bottom of the stairs, got all of the wires sorted and figured out. Then removed the drivers heater console (will clean and put back in) and capped off the coolant tubes. Then we were able to remove the last of the linoleum and plywood in drivers area. The bus is 100% free of fiberglass insulation, linoleum, and plywood as of now. So here is a picture of the drivers area, we paid very close attention to the wires we were removing, and labeling and the bus still starts and moves with all this removed.
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07-05-2015, 07:42 PM
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#40
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 502
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Video of our engine running. (DTA360) the rattling you hear is just the hood being a bit loose
https://youtu.be/eqqo5YEtS2g
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