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Old 06-14-2015, 08:21 PM   #21
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My old 40' BB had acoustic panels over the driver/doghouse area and I had exactly what you fear...constantly raining tiny fiberglass particles. I covered mine with some thin backed carpet.

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Old 06-14-2015, 11:25 PM   #22
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Our BB has those same acoustic panels and I've been dying to know what they are there for.

So far nothings popping out of the holes yet.
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Old 06-15-2015, 09:33 AM   #23
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All those tiny holes break up sound and less bounces back than with a smooth panel. Actually makes quite a bit of difference. The problem being that in many installations, the fiberglass batting is right behind it and after a while can begin filtering down through those same holes. Almost unnoticeable since only tiny fibers get through, but not anything you want to be breathing or have in a closed environment.
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Old 06-15-2015, 01:14 PM   #24
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I hate the fiberglass crap with a passion.

The older it gets, the more it fragments and falls on you.

Same in home reno's. The older the stuff gets, it just turns to deadly dust when you try to remove it.

Once in you lungs or clothes, it never comes out. After all it's glass.

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Old 06-15-2015, 01:47 PM   #25
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Have to wonder how long it will be before we are seeing lawyers on TV advertising big money for "victims of fiberglass insulation".

I'm convinced the crap is every bit as bad as asbestos and should be outlawed.
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Old 06-15-2015, 03:12 PM   #26
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lol tango, i'm thinking the same thing. no matter where it gets on you, it is not safe. good thing we were wearing protective equipment when removing. I've found this recycled insulation that is denim, and has the same R-values as fiberglass insulation and you need no equipment to handle it and can breathe it safely. why they hadn't thought of this 30 years ago i don't know.... IF anyone hears of a class action lawsuit for fiberglass insulation let me know. lol.
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Old 06-15-2015, 03:20 PM   #27
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as moldy as my fiberglass was, I would imagine denim to be quite a nightmare in a bus environment. Imagine the smell of a bunch of moldy levi's encapsulating you!
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Old 06-15-2015, 03:29 PM   #28
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well there goes the denim idea, good point. Although my fiberglass was actually in great shape, no mold at all really just dust and spiders. I'm gonna have to dig into the insulation thread here and get some ideas.
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Old 06-15-2015, 03:44 PM   #29
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The company is called Bonded Logic. The insulation is treated for mold etc resistance, and comes in interesting configurations. It looks like something you should try out and report back.
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UltraTouch contains an EPA registered fungal inhibitor to actively resist the growth of mold, fungi and bacteria.
in a metal box like a bus, the condensation is going to be overwhelming for something like denim. Sure it may hold up for a spell, but its ORGANIC and will eventually mold.
This stuff is made for actual houses. For applications where actual fiberglass would work.
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in a metal box like a bus, the condensation is going to be overwhelming for something like denim. Sure it may hold up for a spell, but its ORGANIC and will eventually mold.
This stuff is made for actual houses. For applications where actual fiberglass would work.
Makes sense. Thanks for pointing that out!
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Old 06-15-2015, 04:13 PM   #32
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Hey thanks for the link! I've been searching for a site just like that. All the advice helps, thanks all and keep it coming.
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Old 06-15-2015, 04:34 PM   #33
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Facts About Insulation and Mold

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Old 06-15-2015, 07:31 PM   #34
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I'm down for the lawsuit against fiberglass.

I also agree it is as bad as asbestos.

Here in Alberta Canada, guys working in modular home construction plants still don't wear any protective gear at all. No mask, coverall, glasses, ect.

Some guys lay in the stuff while having lunch.

Yuk

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Old 06-15-2015, 07:39 PM   #35
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Part of this Bus was made in Ontario. I cant believe they lay and eat in it...wow. hopefully they are laying on the paper side. lol.
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Old 06-15-2015, 07:45 PM   #36
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Hopefully they are laying on the paper side. lol.
No paper on the stuff we get here.

Raw fiberglass both sides.

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Old 06-16-2015, 10:05 PM   #37
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Removed drivers chair (currently in search of nice new/used captains chair) and started to tackle the job of replacing the control console. labeling all the switches and making diagrams. The heater system below will stay. Will make a custom dash defroster and media/control panel. Keeping the wiring and switches just slimming it down a bit. We will be keeping the double swing doors the bus came with and the mechanism, going to be a refurbishing project of mine. As well as the oval window labeled Emergency Equipment Inside because it would looked nice in a wood cabinet door. Will also be removing the lights up top on the front and back that come on when door is open and kids are boarding/unloading. Lots of tedious wire tracking and labeling.
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Old 06-16-2015, 10:44 PM   #38
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Ah, the beautiful sight of wiring chaos.
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Old 07-05-2015, 07:32 PM   #39
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Hi, haven't posted in a bit, so here's an update. Removed the rear wall interior panels, removed the linoleum on the stairs, and found there was no rust except a little patch where the door meets the bottom of the stairs, got all of the wires sorted and figured out. Then removed the drivers heater console (will clean and put back in) and capped off the coolant tubes. Then we were able to remove the last of the linoleum and plywood in drivers area. The bus is 100% free of fiberglass insulation, linoleum, and plywood as of now. So here is a picture of the drivers area, we paid very close attention to the wires we were removing, and labeling and the bus still starts and moves with all this removed.

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Old 07-05-2015, 07:42 PM   #40
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Video of our engine running. (DTA360) the rattling you hear is just the hood being a bit loose

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