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08-21-2017, 07:18 AM
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#41
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 774
Year: 2002
Coachwork: International
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Originally Posted by M1031A1
Conversion goes more efficiently when you have help. Doing it by yourself is tougher and takes longer.... HOW do I know.......
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Oh I know it well. I'm doing my conversion alone too. 10 months later......
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08-21-2017, 07:29 AM
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#42
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tobeamiss
Oh I know it well. I'm doing my conversion alone too. 10 months later......
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I'm going on three years. But I've done it all for free or for VERY little money.
Slow and deliberate!
And help from friends along the way is always super.
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08-21-2017, 07:50 AM
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#43
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 774
Year: 2002
Coachwork: International
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Wow, 3yrs! I wish I could take my time. I'm on a time crunch...sort of...I had promised my Mom I would be down her way (Fla) by the end of the year. So with that it mind, I'm shooting for getting it livable and probably finishing down there. So stressful.
I think I can get the interior done, plumbing and electrical too. I'll worry about solar later on.
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08-21-2017, 08:32 AM
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#44
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dowdy Lakes, Colorado
Posts: 1,444
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner ER
Engine: 3208 CAT/MT643 tranny
Rated Cap: 87
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
I'm going on three years. But I've done it all for free or for VERY little money.
Slow and deliberate!
And help from friends along the way is always super.
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ECCB,
We're in year SIX..... Second year into the build, but almost four years in the hunt before the find......
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Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence. — George Washington
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08-21-2017, 08:33 AM
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#45
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by M1031A1
ECCB,
We're in year SIX..... Second year into the build, but almost four years in the hunt before the find......
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I look at my bus like its a fine wine.
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08-21-2017, 08:34 AM
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#46
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tobeamiss
Wow, 3yrs! I wish I could take my time. I'm on a time crunch...sort of...I had promised my Mom I would be down her way (Fla) by the end of the year. So with that it mind, I'm shooting for getting it livable and probably finishing down there. So stressful.
I think I can get the interior done, plumbing and electrical too. I'll worry about solar later on.
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Maybe we can give you a hand with it when you get here?
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08-21-2017, 08:36 AM
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#47
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dowdy Lakes, Colorado
Posts: 1,444
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner ER
Engine: 3208 CAT/MT643 tranny
Rated Cap: 87
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
I look at my bus like its a fine wine.
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I look at mine like it's a fine whiskey...... (Let the corny jokes ensue!!! )
M
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Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence. — George Washington
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08-21-2017, 08:45 AM
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#48
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 774
Year: 2002
Coachwork: International
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Maybe we can give you a hand with it when you get here?
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I would be forever grateful!
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08-21-2017, 08:52 AM
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#49
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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My Shorty arrived from Utah on August 3rd, 2011. Been at it ever since. Had to take a little over a year off to beat some cancer and had limited time available for another year or so but now work on it just about daily. I knew it would "take a while" given it's age (and mine) but had hoped to be further along by now. No complaints, just need to stay at it and wrap this sucker up while I can still drive it.
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08-21-2017, 10:02 AM
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#50
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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All the guys
All the guys with the highest post totals take longest to convert their buses???
I got mine first of the year 2017. Took about 4 months to get it running the way I liked. Am finishing the last of the demo/repair work and then I can start my build.
I tried not to have a date for completion in mind, just accomplish one thing each day on the bus, no matter how small. Forward progress.
Today, am sealing hole where old toilet vent went thru floor. 16 ga steel, riveted over old hole. Seal w/ PL goop.
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08-21-2017, 01:13 PM
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#51
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty
All the guys with the highest post totals take longest to convert their buses???
I got mine first of the year 2017. Took about 4 months to get it running the way I liked. Am finishing the last of the demo/repair work and then I can start my build.
I tried not to have a date for completion in mind, just accomplish one thing each day on the bus, no matter how small. Forward progress.
Today, am sealing hole where old toilet vent went thru floor. 16 ga steel, riveted over old hole. Seal w/ PL goop.
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Most of us "old timers" are doing full-on builds.
I could do what 80% of the folks on here do in a month or two, given ample funds. Most folks just leave the rotten interior in place and build a sort of slipshod camper and call it a day. Nothing wrong with that.
But some of us are really into building an EPIC project, and you can't rush perfection.
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08-21-2017, 04:50 PM
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#52
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Most of us "old timers" are doing full-on builds.
I could do what 80% of the folks on here do in a month or two, given ample funds. Most folks just leave the rotten interior in place and build a sort of slipshod camper and call it a day. Nothing wrong with that.
But some of us are really into building an EPIC project, and you can't rush perfection.
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Good move. I'm thinking of doing 2.
One now - faster, to learn lessons from. Also probably bigger to handle kids,
One later - integrate the lessons learned and do a better job . Smaller.
WE will see!
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08-21-2017, 06:30 PM
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#53
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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My first attempt at bus ownership was a learning experience. 1985 Thomas on a Ford chassis with a gas engine. Total POS.
This current Roll Your Own bus is sorta my lifelong dream, and I'm taking as much time as I want. I have no time constraints, and no imaginary deadlines. Just doing it as I can when I can.
But my shorty is for immediate enjoyment. Other than the paint job that's taking forever due to prep, parts sourcing, other projects and a busy work schedule.
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08-22-2017, 08:56 AM
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#54
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Lafayette, Indiana
Posts: 332
Year: 2003
Engine: DT530
Rated Cap: 84
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This build is going to be somewhere in the middle. I always believed that a job worth doing is worth doing correct. But I will have to do it in phases because I want to be using the bus while I still have children living at home. So my plan is to do the interior the right way and then slowly over time sandblasting the underside and repaint and recoat it.
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08-22-2017, 11:07 AM
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#55
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by T-Bolt
So my plan is to do the interior the right way and then slowly over time sandblasting the underside and repaint and recoat it.
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I hear you. My time constraints are the seasons. I need to be done with the outside- paint by the time it's cold. But then some inside stuff needs to be done before the outside stuff...vicious cycle
My worry is getting to 80% complete...and living with it. Get 'er done.
Are you really sandblasting the underside of a bus? That will be an undertaking and messy.
Maybe lay a pipe with several nozzles pointing upward and hooked to a big bridge-blaster pressure pot. Drive-over slowly for the undercarriage treatment.
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08-22-2017, 11:15 AM
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#56
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Lafayette, Indiana
Posts: 332
Year: 2003
Engine: DT530
Rated Cap: 84
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I will power wash and coat the areas without rust. When I find rust I will sandblast, treat, paint then undercoat.
Very time consuming but the end result will be worth it.
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08-26-2017, 01:29 PM
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#57
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Lafayette, Indiana
Posts: 332
Year: 2003
Engine: DT530
Rated Cap: 84
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I am ready to start welding the patches for lights and rust but is there anything that I need to disconnect first?
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08-26-2017, 01:37 PM
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#58
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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If you have an electronic transmission or any other computer controlled nonsense on your rig, it is important to disconnect your battery before doing any welding anywhere on the body or chassis. Some people get away with it, others have fried everything.
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08-27-2017, 06:13 PM
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#59
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Lafayette, Indiana
Posts: 332
Year: 2003
Engine: DT530
Rated Cap: 84
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I am trying to decide how much AC I will need. I have factory road air so I'm looking at AC while parked. The plan is to have 3" of spray foam on walls and ceiling. Insulated curtains for the 12 remaining windows. Solar panels will shade a large portion of the roof. I would like to do 2 rooftop units with one being 5000 btu so it could run of solar and the other 10000 btu when plugged in.
How do I know if this will be enough or excessive?
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08-28-2017, 06:55 AM
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#60
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 774
Year: 2002
Coachwork: International
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by T-Bolt
The plan is to have 3" of spray foam on walls and ceiling.
How do I know if this will be enough or excessive?
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It depends on how much ceiling height you can afford to lose. 3" foam means you're going to lose roughly 2"of finalized height. And then factor in your flooring...you'll lose more.
The spray foam I used (foam-it- green)will give me an R-value of 7 per inch. So, so far I have an R-value of 14 but I'm not done yet because I plan on putting a layer of something (haven't figured it out yet) between the foam and my wood ceiling to have even more of a thermal barrier. I didn't go any thicker with the spray foam because I figured 14R value would be enough without taking away too much of my ceiling height allowing me to put up something else for my thermal break. I'll also have solar panels on the roof which should help.
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