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Old 09-04-2007, 09:54 PM   #1
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Attaching wood to inside of bus?

Probably a question too basic for this group, but after studying a ton of photos, I still can't seem to tell how overhead cabinets are attached to the inside metal walls of the bus.

Mine is going to be a short bus, and over head storage cabinets will be a must. I'm fairly handy and will have no trouble making the cabinets, but mounting them on steel bus walls that will be moving is new territory for me. Any advice for this novies would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:38 PM   #2
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Re: Attaching wood to inside of bus?

There's a few different methods. You could take metal L brackets and screw them into the ceiling and into the back of your cabinets. Your ceiling is two layers of metal with insulation in between. You could even weld the brackets to the ceiling if you wanted, but I think that would be overkill and hard to repair if you ever wanted to make changes. Or, you could just cut pieces of 2x4's and screw and glue them to the ceiling. Then, screw your cabinet frames to that. It will take time and a lot of careful measurements if you want to make it nice.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:33 PM   #3
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Re: Attaching wood to inside of bus?

Mine are pretty straight forward. In the picture below I still have the end caps off the cabinet. I used a 1x3 cleat screwed directly to the ceiling with TEK screws, then used an air stapler with 2" finish nail/staple to attach the oak frame to the 1x3 strip. For additional support, I also drilled some pilot holes through the oak inside the door opening upward to the ceiling, then installed some 3" TEK screws that helped 'pull' the cabinet tight against the ceiling. Those things are up there, if I weighed a little less I could probably do chin-up's on them!!



The inside edge of the cabinet bottom was simply placed on top of the conduit railing at first, then used some 2" TEK screws to 'toe nail' them into the metal, this was done through the door openings. While I'm still in construction phase, I am using these cabinets to store all kinds of things, most of my electrical wiring and stuff I have in one of them, first aid stuff, etc... They worked out very well!!





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Old 09-05-2007, 11:14 PM   #4
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Re: Attaching wood to inside of bus?

Mine are simular in design to the above (GoneCamping)

I screwed 2x2's to the roof and the wall with a few 2x2's coming away from the wall and coming down and then used a heavier plywood for the bottom and lighter plywood for the front of the cabinet. I used a screw at each roof cross over and at least one in between making sure I didn't come near my 120volt wiring going up and over to the other side and to the A/C.

I would too say with a short bus over head cabinets are almost a must. I would have run out of space to put stuff such as extra blankets and clothing without them in there but I could have managed it just would have been tighter. And my bus isn't the shortest out there.

With one of them little cutaways I would put a cabinet above the driver seat by remodeling the storage box up there for more room basicly extending it. I would do bunkbeds in one and then the top bunk would double for extra storage space while driving and when parked overnight stuff could be moved up to the driver seat. Unless you are very good at packing or finding more storage space. I do know I could find more space for storage but I did want some open floor where I could laydown on the floor if I wanted to or it could be used for a couple extra people to sleep if needed.
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Old 09-29-2007, 03:01 PM   #5
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Re: Attaching wood to inside of bus?

Check out this post...

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=847&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hi lit=cabnits

I like the self drilling or TEK screws. There should be about a 2" gap between the inner and outer panels of your roof - if you want to check just remove one of the 12 volt lights on the ceiling and measure. Then get the correct length screws so you go into the inside panel but not through to the outside one... that would be bad.
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Re: Attaching wood to inside of bus?

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Sorry, but I don't know what TEK screws are? Are they the self-tapping screws?
Yep! (Actually, they're self-DRILLING sheet metal screws available in hex or slotted heads.) You can get them with or without a rubber grommet under the head. Anywhere that sells metal roofing will have the grommeted type and most hardware stores carry the ones without the grommets.
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:06 AM   #7
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Re: Attaching wood to inside of bus?

I always called them "self tapping screws" until I was corrected on this post...

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2158&p=15999#p15999 <---- More that you'd ever care to know about what these screws are called...

Whatever you want to call em, they're a screw with a little drill tip on the end of them, they work very well. They look like this..



I used these and some glue to put strips along the ceiling and walls then screwed my cabinets to them.



you can kinda see the strips on the rt. cabinet in this picture. This was before I put the end on it.
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Old 10-08-2007, 07:41 PM   #8
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I always called them "self tapping screws" until I was corrected on this post...
I have been using them for years in steel construction. Tek screws, self-tappers or just plain tappers all work as a description. Anyone on a job would know what you were looking for if you asked for them by any of those names. The screws you pictured are hex-head, I use bugle heads points (drywall screws) for cabinet work. I also have been using pan-head tappers and wafer-head tappers while skinning my bus. I will be using lots of bugle headed tappers and points to build the interior.
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Thanks for the visual! That's the kind of learner I am!
Me too.. that's why I love putting pictures in my posts. I usually gotta look at something to "get it"
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please tell me how cold you get in colder climates with the metal bus panels still on the ceiling and I imagine the stock insulation in there as well....
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