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Old 04-10-2010, 09:06 PM   #81
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Finally got some time today to get back to the bus. Today I wanted to get the hot water working. To accomplish this I needed to make a mount for the propane tanks and a mount for the water heater.

I managed to start the water heater mount and complete the propane mount. Iím really happy with how it came out. I wanted to make sure it was absolutely rock solid and high up enough that it wouldnít be hit by road debris. I bought steel for this a few weeks ago. I didnít have an actual plan but there was a few ideas floating around in my head.

The final mount has three supports to minimize material and mount points. The bottom is 3/4? plywood with circles cut out for the tanks. A threaded rod with a cross bar holds the tanks down.



Once the basic frame was done I climbed under the bus (about 30 times) to take measurements and weld the needed brackets onto the frame. My motorcycle lift came in handy holding the frame in place while I measured.



Some of the brackets are recycled from the bus seat brackets. Then I painted everything up. Metal got flat black and the plywood got some left over paint from the home theater. I clamped the tank frame to the bus frame and drilled through the bus frame. Let me say that bus frames are not fun to drill through! Thatís some hard and thick metal.

Five grade 8 bolts hold the frame in place. Once it was installed it was difficult to take photos in the tight space. It turned out ROCK solid. Iím confident that this could hold about 10 times the weight of these propane tanks.

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Old 04-11-2010, 08:43 AM   #82
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OOOOHHH. Looks like I'll be getting some ideas from you BB!!
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Old 04-11-2010, 11:56 PM   #83
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nicely done!
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Old 04-14-2010, 01:14 PM   #84
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GREAT NEWS!!

I was kind of worried about getting my bus re-titled. Anyone who lives in Massachusetts will tell you that dealing with the Registry of Motor Vehicles can be challenging and daunting. I mentioned in another post that I had contacted the titling dept in Boston and I was told I needed a notarized written statement that I had converted my bus to an RV in order to get re-titled as an "Auto Home".

Well I wrote up a fancy statement that quoted the General Mass Law chapter and section about RVs (or Auto home's as Mass calls them) and I got it notarized and everything. I went to the RMV today and the woman was super nice and didn't even bat an eye at the whole process. She barely glanced at my notarized document (although she acknowledged it was necessary). She wrote up my title change and told me she'd put a rush on it and I'd have it in two weeks.

She also said I might be able to use the title receipt she gave me to register and insure it right away.

I'm very relieved that I'll have my title. I can't wait to get registered and insured!

For anyone interested, here's the fancy document I wrote up...

http://docs.google.com/View?id=dhjpqvnv_14dt7snjgs
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Old 04-14-2010, 04:39 PM   #85
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glad to hear!! I had to jump through so many loops that I can't remember. Half of them was from trial and error because SGI (Saskatchewan government insurance) would not tell me what was wrong!!
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Old 04-14-2010, 08:59 PM   #86
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BB.. I'm surprised you even had to write up that affadavit. The general manager at my work registered his Blue Bird transit bus about a year ago and didn't even take out the seats and he was able to get it registered and insured.

Maybe they changed the laws.
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Old 04-14-2010, 10:47 PM   #87
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BB.. I'm surprised you even had to write up that affadavit. The general manager at my work registered his Blue Bird transit bus about a year ago and didn't even take out the seats and he was able to get it registered and insured.
Maybe they changed the laws.
I have a friend in Mass that registered a Bluebird and had no problem. I think Bluebirds are a special case because Bluebird actually makes RVs (Wonderlodge). He told me he registered through triple A and he implied it was a wonderlodge.

My insurance company sent me packing when I tried to insure it as a bus. Even today I tried to get insurance through Progressive. Their website actually has a "non-professional bus conversion" category. I ended up having to call them when the transaction wouldn't go through on the site. I was transferred a few times then told that Progressive no longer "accepts that kind of liability"

So my search for insurance continues.
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Old 04-15-2010, 10:48 PM   #88
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Hot water and a new closet this week. Also I received my auto changeover propane regulator and my black and gray water tanks.

Here's the water heater:


A view of the bus from the front. The new closet is on the left.


And some detail of the closet.


This weekend I'll be making a bracket for the gray water tank and plumbing in the shower.
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Old 04-16-2010, 11:02 AM   #89
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Where does the water heater vent? After looking at the tank (LP) mounts, I don't know that I wouldn't run a piece of flat iron strapping under them, welded to the tank mount frame, or secure a safety-chain through the handles so they could only drop an inch or two. The plywood will eventually rot, and it appears to be all that's standing between the tanks and the road (unless you'd just change it out periodically).

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There's a hole in the top of the water heater. It's a "flue" type so the heat just rises. I'm planning to put an elbow on the outlet and run it through the wall. Or maybe just straight down. I'm going to run some tests on heat build up.

As for under the propane, I think your right. I have some heavy wire mesh from the wheel chair lift ramp. I'll cut a piece of that and weld it to the bottom. The the plywood will just be keeping the tanks from sliding. Even with the mesh they could still slide out if the wood was rotted enough, but I should notice that while changing the tanks.
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Old 04-16-2010, 11:40 AM   #90
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Re: Bailey Bus Bunedoggle

I really am digging your progress. Your work looks good. I had thought about putting the water heater under the bus also, but I couldn't think of an easy way to keep it dry given the outside location and road spray driving on wet days. How do you plan to keep the water sensitive parts dry? (maybe I can do the same on the next bus )
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