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Old 02-26-2010, 03:38 PM   #1
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Bailey Bus Bunedoggle

Hey all!

I've been coming here and reading about Skoolies for about 5 years (or more). It's finally my turn to post!

I picked up my bus on Monday 2/22/10. It's all I think about now It's a 1993 Thomas Safe-T-Liner MVP pusher with a CAT 3116. It's kind of unique in that it had subway style seat, which I think are much easier to take out. There already out actually, except for the ones I'm keeping.

Here's some video on youtube of the first day home:
Outside:
Inside:

As you can see it had overhead storage racks and stainless steel grab poles. The CAT 3116 engine wasn't my first choice but it runs strong and there's only minor surface rust on the bus here and there, no rot. The frame and floor underneath are still black. There's no significant body damage. All the windows are tinted and the bus came white, so I don't even need to paint it, although I plan to paint some accents. Plus, no school bus lighting to remove and cover over.

I'll post some pictures of the bus with the seats removed. I've started a gallery too:
http://www.skoolie.net/gallery2/v/Skoolies/bunedoggle/

I haven't driven it on the highway yet, but the place I bought it from delivered it for me. They followed me home and kept up at 65 MPH. The driver said it drove great. I've driven it around my neighborhood and I was surprised at the acceleration and braking. I expected slower a response in both cases.
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Old 02-26-2010, 07:14 PM   #2
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Re: Bailey Bus Bunedoggle

WOW!! I would say that is just about the PERFECT SKOOLIE!! Raised roof, already painted, belly storage, tinted windows, wheelchair lift door. NICE FIND!!

Was that a Martha's Vineyard shuttle bus? Are you in Mass?
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Old 02-27-2010, 05:13 PM   #3
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I know it seems like a lot of hours on the chassis but I looked at MANY buses and have yet to see a chassis in this good of shape (in my price range).

For those who asked, the bus was $5000. About twice my initial budget, butwhen I read about people raising roofs, patching holes, replacing tires etc, I decided to go with the extra cost vs. the extra work.

The tires are in great shape, there are zero rust holes, not even close. I'm already building inside.

Also, for those who asked, yes We're in Mass.

I've got a question for all of you...

I, like most, will be removing some windows. The pillars between the windows on the outside have screws holding them on. I tried removing them, they won't budge with an impact driver. I tried drilling them and they are pretty darn tough. I know I can grind the head off with a grinder, but before I go there...

When you remove the windows do they normally come out toward the outside or toward the inside? Anyone else with a Thomas Safe-T-Liner want to comment on window removal?

I'm going to put 20 gauge sheet metel over the removed windows. I'm planning on riviting the metal to the pilars, so I'll have to remove thos screw heads first.

Here's some progress pics:
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Old 02-27-2010, 05:15 PM   #4
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I guess I only get one pic per post...

Here's the bed platform:
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Old 02-27-2010, 06:50 PM   #5
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Ok, I went out and took a few windows out. It's trivial (which explains why I couldn't find any info on Skoolie.net about it).

For posterity sake, to remove the windows:

Put the window down. Remove one screw on each side of the window frame. Pull top rubber seal down to expose the top screw. Remove top screw. Run a utility knife around the outside or the window to cut the caulking. Pull the window in and it should come free easily.

The exit windows are similar, except to access the screws you must push the exit window open first.

I also ground the screws off the pillars between the windows that I'm removing. Once the screw heads were ground off I was able to pry the pillar covers off.

Here's what it looked like before and after:
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Old 02-27-2010, 08:12 PM   #6
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I tried to reply before and the stupid thing timed out so I gave up. I adhered the window skins using a marine ureathane adhesive/sealant with very few screws and its held with no problems, just ran a bead along every pillar and along the top and bottom edge of the panel. The steel was sheared so that it pushes up under the rain channel and the bottom rests ontop of the threaded part of the screws the run all along below the widow (which were all loosened then put back in allowing the heads to hold it) and On the leading edge I took one of the exterior pillar covers, cut one flange off of the side and cut the bottom flange off. Put some sealer on the front, top and back edge and screwed it back into the existing holes (pre-drilled from the inside out in order to locate the holes through the skin). This keeps the water and wind out and also makes it look more finished. I also have a Thomas body, maybe some of my build pics will help you out. http://s626.photobucket.com/home/gatorbus/index

On my latest transit bus, I replaced alot of exterior steel and used a automotive panel adhesive/sealant that Gillig uses in their manufacturing. It has a 2k lb tensile strength and once cured, it is about impossible to remove it. I just tacked the panels in a few places for safekeeping. It was half the price of the marine stuff and alot easier to work with. It is here http://www.jdindustrialsupply.com/silaprenem6325.html
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Old 02-27-2010, 11:22 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Iceni John
What are your plans for it? (Full-timing, weekend trips, boondocking?) I'll be interested in seeing how you convert it - I almost bought a Thomas WestCoast-ER about the same size as yours.

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This will be for weekend trips with the family (3 kids) as well as multiweek excursions when we can get away.
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Old 02-28-2010, 05:05 PM   #8
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Didn't get much done today. I need sheet metal to block the windows before I can start framing more inside.

I remove more of the overhead storage racks and did some undercarriage inspection. I'm still amazed at how little rust there is. I put some pictures on the belly in my gallery:

http://www.skoolie.net/gallery2/v/Skooli ... _carriage/

I did notice a few places where there's fluid weeping, no dripping leaks though. No spots on my driveway after a week in the same spot. I've even run it several times.

One thing I noticed that's concerning me, there's a steel line about 1/2 to 3/4" in diameter running the length of the bus. It's really rusty. Looks like it should be replaced, soon.

I couldn't tell where it's coming from of going. I'll have to look closer.

Here's a picture of one section:

The only thing I can think of that runs front to back is air (besides the coolant for the heat, but that's inside.) Could it be air? Looks like fluid to me, and leaky to boot.
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Old 03-01-2010, 10:21 AM   #9
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I'm guessing that image 5513 is the soft underbelly of your air dryer.
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Thanks for the info John!
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I just went out at lunch time to the local steel supply place to get some galvanized 20 gauge sheet metal to cover the windows. They didn't have anything in stock (they deal with much heavier stuff usually).

I was disappointed that I'd have to order something, so on a whim I went over to the sign shop my sister-in-law works at, Sign Effects Billerica, MA (shameless plug). Dave, the owner, is awesome. He sold me a bunch of aluminum signs already cut to the height I needed for 30 bucks!!

I now have about 15 feet by 30 inches of 18 gauge aluminum that's already painted white and still has the protective plastic on one side!! (The other side is printed with a sign).

This should be enough to so most of the windows I want to cover.
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