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Old 02-23-2014, 05:09 PM   #21
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Re: Betsy

Nope, it's definitely a TC2000. The 1000 has different roof caps that look the same as Bluebird uses on the airport shuttle buses, also I think I read somewhere that it was only available with 19.5"rubber.

I agree it is absolutely an oddly specced bus. I mean come on, it's a 10 window bus that has a seating capacity of 16. That's what it actually says on the body tag Bluebird put in it. There is only one other bus set up for that many wheelchairs in the country for sale right now but it had more rust than the one I bought.....

I do not have any pictures I took yet. But that odd sister I mentioned is still for sale. Here http://www.midwesttransit.com/Bus-Searc ... p?i=100028

I would like to state for the record that while I did buy it from this dealership, I did not pay anywhere near that for it.
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Old 02-24-2014, 04:37 PM   #22
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Nope, that's what Bluebird did with the TC1000.

My bus has low profile 22.5" tires now but was built with 10R22.5".

Bluebird raised the steel floor themselves. Stuck my head under it when I had the dealership pull it into the shop so we could inspect the bottom. The sheet metal underneath has a rise in it that matches the one on the floor inside. There is no bridge between wheel wells. There are no wheel wells under the bus. The sheet metal part except for the ridges that are built in is flat from the front tires to the rear bumper.
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Old 02-24-2014, 09:23 PM   #23
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So your floor looks like this?

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Old 02-25-2014, 02:23 PM   #24
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Does that mean you have an extra five or six inches of room under the floor for tanks/storage/etc? Thatís kinda nice.
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Old 02-25-2014, 06:22 PM   #25
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Yes. The link I posted is to the same dealer I bought my bus from. The bus in the ad is the sister bus to mine. Different miles but otherwise they are the same. Dealership listed the seating cap at 16 but the bus itself lists 17. 10 seated 7 wheelchairs. My floor looks just like that. No wheel wells at all.

I do have plenty of room for under body storage. There is 20" of sheet metal below the floor level. Of course as with every other schoolbus on planet Earth the rear wheels are going to make plumbing fun. I wish they were 2' farther back. Heck even another 12" would be handy.

In all honesty my initial hope was that bluebird had gone cheap and used a standard metal floor with wheel wells and just added wood spacers or something and raised the plywood and rubber above the wheels, but no such luck. They raised the metal too. I have more room under for tanks etc, but If the bus had been built with a false floor I could have removed it and gained all sorts of headroom. Oh well.
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Old 04-29-2014, 09:55 PM   #26
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Well I finally did some work on the bus today.
First time my buddy has been able to come over and help. Got the seats and divider things out, you know the upholstered bulkheads that keep the front row from falling into the step well when the driver hits the brakes?
Only had to grind off four of the bolts. The rest we got out with hand tools.
Started pulling up the rubber a bit too. Like most others I have rotten plywood. Not too terrible but at least my plans have always included removing the original plywood so I'm not exactly heart broken about it. The real joy is going to be removing the seatbelt track for the wheelchairs. That for those who may not be absolutely positive was sarcasm. Each section of track has a big fat allen head bolt every 6 inches or so. I had an allen wrench that fit em, but turning one is a whole different story. Hopefully they go all the way through the floor like the normal bolts did.
I have a truck show this weekend and the wifes birthday the next weekend so I won't be finding out just what a nightmare those turn out to be for 2 weeks. If I can get my buddy over again.
Then it will be pull up the plywood time. Once that's up I get to go buy new materials! Yay. Yup, plywood. Which will be covering the windows while I cut off the rivits holding up the ceiling panels. That will get me access to replace the factory insulation and find the one leak I seem to have which leaves a puddle about a foot from the rear door a little to the drivers side.
in other news I seem to have a moving van type ramp for the back door. Have absolutely no idea how to get it out, I suspect the rear bumper was replaced because there is no way to move it like a hinge for example and definitely no slot for it to extend through. Sure would be handy if I can figure out how to deploy it.
The carriage bolts holding the lift in will have to be ground off. Again this is going to be fun given all the rust there. The rust is on the lift base itself. As much steel is in that thing I think I'll haul it to the scrap yard my self. Getting that bad boy into my pickup is going to be a joy. Of course by the time I get it out I may well be entirely out of give a damn and just let the neighborhood scrapper take it. I have to admit I figure the easiest way to actually remove it from the bus is once the fasteners are removed just pull to the end of the driveway, open the door and give it a shove. But That's most likely 3rd week of may or so. Maybe I'll get inspired and grind the bolts after work tomorrow in celebration of my last day on day shift. until June anyway.
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Old 04-29-2014, 10:32 PM   #27
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Those wheelchair mounts were the worst thing to remove on my whole tear down.
Ended up having to use the angle grinder and just grind down threw all the heads and then use a big pry bar to pop them off. ...sucked
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Old 05-04-2014, 09:24 PM   #28
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Sorry Nat but not happening unless I can do it from my flickr account.
But at the moment there's nothing worth taking a picture of.
The seats are no longer attached to the bus, but they are all still in it. My buddy wanted to take a couple but the day he came over the only vehicle he had with enough fuel in it to make the trip to my house was his VW. this weekend I had a truck show out of state and my wife has plans for my other day off so looks like nothing going for another week.
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Old 05-04-2014, 10:06 PM   #29
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I agree with both of your sentiments. It's just that I've had my flickr account for several years. maybe I'll start a photobucket account strictly for the conversion. No promises yet though.
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Old 05-04-2014, 11:06 PM   #30
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Flickr works fine. I use flickr for posting my pictures to these forums since I don't like Photobucket's interface.

When you click to view an image in Flickr there will be a "Share" icon on the right hand side. It looks like a square with an arrow pointing out of it. After clicking on it a pop-out box will appear. Click the "BB Code" link then select the image size. I prefer "Medium 640x480" or "Medium 500x374". Copy the text below the link into your post and the image will magically appear when you click "Preview" or "Submit".

The code for posting will look something like this:
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