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Old 07-22-2015, 09:38 AM   #71
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Rarely do my scheduled tasks happen on time, but I hope it works for you
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Old 07-22-2015, 09:44 AM   #72
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Rarely do my scheduled tasks happen on time, but I hope it works for you
Ditto, but since I've got a hard deadline in early November it'll help to have a schedule. A lot of this stuff can slip, but this schedule is a best case scenario. A wish list. "Livable" to me could mean a mattress on the metal floor of the bus, as long as the air conditioner is installed. Shower/Toilet would be nice too, and I can make those work without tanks where I'll be parking it this winter.
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Old 07-22-2015, 12:21 PM   #73
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Well, it looks like you don't have that sprayed in black goo that's bringing me to almost a .... I'm putting more time on the goo than I had imagined I would. The Texas humidity is also working against me at this point. Looks like you have a good plan. Word of advice, add in an extra 10 to 25% more time just incase you come up against any unforeseen roadblocks or issues. I thought I'd be way beyond where I'm at right now. Owned her for about a month and she's still in tear-down mode....
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Old 07-22-2015, 01:24 PM   #74
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Hopefully I don't find any black goo when I tear down the interior sheet metal. I may consider not tearing it out so that'll give me a couple weeks of play in my schedule. I'm gonna see how hard it is to take those rivets out. I've got about a thousand. Any reccomendations?
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Old 07-22-2015, 01:31 PM   #75
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Well, that's why I bought Heavy. NO interior rivets of any real volume. I had screws to remove. Much easier. Looks like you'll need to grind those rivets out to remove the walls and ceiling panels. I feel your pain.....
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Old 07-22-2015, 01:42 PM   #76
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For removing rivets from a panel you don't mind destroying.. my priority order is plasma cutter (maybe oxy-fuel cutting torch? Didn't try that), shear the head off with an air chisel, shear it with a hand chisel, drill, or grind. The two shearing methods apply only to blind/pop type rivets; solid rivets are too thick to shear effectively.
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Old 07-24-2015, 08:10 PM   #77
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I'm gonna see how hard it is to take those rivets out. I've got about a thousand. Any recommendations?
Well, if you think its only about a thousand, the builder must have shorted it some. I'd bet mine has a thousand plus on just the ceiling.
Anyway, (a center punch if you need it and) a drill will make it easy. That is what I am using on my rub rails outside. Harbor Freight has the punch cheap.
Grab the step bit. It will remove the center of the rivet and just the top unless you forget to stop.


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Old 07-25-2015, 01:15 AM   #78
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Hopefully I don't find any black goo when I tear down the interior sheet metal. I may consider not tearing it out so that'll give me a couple weeks of play in my schedule. I'm gonna see how hard it is to take those rivets out. I've got about a thousand. Any reccomendations?
This way worked best for us, and while it took us about 3 weeks, it got done on a budget, using the tools and resources we had. Best of luck, Rivets are hands down the s***ty-est part of a renovation... so monotonous and never ending. Oh boy, though... is it worth it!
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Rivets and black goo have been the bane of my existence since I bought this bus.
I tell ya, the black stuff is a formidable opponent!
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IMO it's still hard to beat a four pound hammer and a long, 1 inch cold chisel with a hand guard to bust rivets.

Or a decent air hammer with a flat chisel.

On the rub rails I found the walls moved and flexed too much for the hammering. So I used a cobalt bit to drill the centers out of the rivets. Only a few seconds on each one.

Step bits are useless for this application. They would also be a waste, as you would only be wearing out the tip.

I had a steady hand so I had no need for the center punch until after the rivet head was drilled off.

I have a plasma, but would never use it for this application. Way to messy and dangerous. And I'm not a fan of breathing vaporized metal and paint.

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