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Old 09-05-2009, 11:45 PM   #21
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Thanks man. I really appreciate it. I think the way that the Watson bus latch is done is the best for me. Im hoping that it works. Im gonna have to spend a little time fooling around with the door frame clearances to make sure it works.
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Old 09-07-2009, 12:50 AM   #22
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im starting to look at the flooring. i have already sealed up the holes with silicone. i am gonna be putting pink foam down and some ply for subfloor. i am trying to decide whether i need a vapor barrier. i am thinking i dont. i have a ton of really high quality valspar duramax paint left that is a weird color. so tomorrow i am gonna lay down a nice thick coat or two. i was thinking that with that, the siliconed holes, and the foam insulation i am good. what do you guys think? i am laying carpet on top of it....not hardwood, so rosin paper seems to be pointless for me.
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Old 09-07-2009, 07:22 AM   #23
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Cause it has to be asked...

You are planning to put town plywood between your foamboard and your carpeting, right?

Sorry, just had to make sure.
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Old 09-07-2009, 12:15 PM   #24
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yeah...i listed that i was putting ply down on top of the foam.
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Old 09-07-2009, 06:53 PM   #25
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should I go with rosin paper or something? What order should I lay it in?
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Old 09-07-2009, 11:09 PM   #26
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should I go with rosin paper or something? What order should I lay it in?
After re-reading your post, you're probably going to need to glue the carped down (since I doubt you'll want to go the tack-strip/stretching route), which won't work well ontop of the rosin paper....so I'd just scratch the paper.

Edit: If the sides of your bus are going to be "full" and you're just going to have an isle down the center....I'd reconsider carpeting. Keep in mind it'll have to be swept, and dust in a small enclosed area never really goes anywhere except airborne everytime you walk on the carpeting (not to mention static electricity, spills & cooking smells). I'd reconsider a different type of flooring (that could be broom-swept) and cut yourself a carpet runner for the isle (you can velcro it in place). Just my suggestion, but camping is generally in a dirty area that gets muddy after a rain, and removing shoes at each entry/exit is a hassle to me. Your bus, your call....but I'd keep it as low-maintenance as possible.

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well, my bus isn't gonna be for camping really. its gonna be parked in parking lots nearly all the time as i live in it 8 months out of the year. i am gonna have a real minimal set up in it tho. i AM thinking of something different for the floor in the living room. but the bedrooms are gonna be carpet for sure. i am not gluing it tho. i am using carpet tape. if you haven't used this stuff....it is incredible. used it in my last rv, and it worked beautifully. it lets me take up the carpet with next to no effort anytime i want to, but it really holds the carpet in place very well. that way anytime i really need to pull it up to sweep or clean i can. so with all that being said....do you think i need a vapor barrier of any type? i thought about plastic but thought that may cause too much chance for moisture buildup. at this point i am leaning towards just the paint, foam, plywood, then carpet/flooring. you think thats good enough?
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Old 09-08-2009, 12:12 AM   #27
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A lot of people here don't realize that the metal floor is the vapor barrier. If you add a vapor barrier on top of the metal, the floor will rust. If you add a vapor barrier on top of the plywood, expect it to rot if water comes between the vapor barrier and the metal floor. I love red rosin paper. It wicks away moisture between metal and plywood, contains it and slowly lets it evaporate away. I use it whenever I lay a metal roof down on plywood. It is code many places if metal roofs aren't laid on lathe. I don't think you need it though in your application of carpet over plywood, since water will migrate up and out with your configuration.
i really appreciate it man. thats what i thought....figured that having carpet meant i didnt need it. just needed someone to tell me my thoughts were right. plus you just saved me money. i mean i know red rosin paper isn't expensive, but not having to buy it is always a plus.
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:18 PM   #28
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Okay. Today wasn't super productive on the bus itself. But still got a lot of stuff done that needed to happen. First, had a guy come pick up all the school bench seats from the bus. Those things will no longer be in my life. This afternoon I painted the metal floor on the bus. I had a gallon of really high end exterior paint leftover from a project. It is a bright blue, so I knew I wasn't gonna use it again. So I figured I would put it to good use. It is Valspar Duramax. Rolls on about 3 times thicker than most paints and has a real high elasticity to it, so its perfect. Plus the stuff cost me about $40 a gallon, so I hated to see it not get used. I laid one coat on then literally watched the paint dry. Fooled around on the outside. Figured out where I am gonna build some under storage and my battery bank box. Then finally got to lay the second coat. Used all the gallon of paint. Looks great:





It looks really good. Since I sealed up all the holes with the silicone the other day, and now I have the paint, I am confident laying my insulation and plywood down now. Plus it will protect the metal. I dont have any rust really to speak of, and this should help keep it that way.

Last night I went to my RV and pulled a bunch of stuff out of it so that I can sell it. So I pulled my two battery bank and inverter out:


I know that it isn't real big high quality stuff, but it worked great for 8 full months of living in the RV, so I am confident in them. I am gonna be building a battery box under the frame to hold them, and will probably be adding 2-4 more batteries to the arsenal. Should be nice. Also pulled a speaker box and a few other odds and ends for the bus. She is coming together well. I am gonna have to score some money soon though, or I am gonna have to put a hold on the build till I can afford more stuff to work with.

Oh, thought I would show you my war wound. I got into a fight with the corner of the car door. It won. But I want a rematch
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Today was a great day. Wanted to get the right paint for the ceiling. Didn't want to have it peeling or flaking off on me. So I headed up to Sherwin Williams. The guy there was awesome. Really knew what he was talking about. Loved the idea of the bus. Actually think he is gonna come check it out sometime soon. Anyways he told me the best stuff for the ceiling was this stuff:

I had already sanded the ceiling, and he said this stuff would adhere really well. Its a thinner paint, so it rolled really easy. It also goes a real long ways. But this paint is stupid expensive....like $80+ a gallon. But he had a few cans that just passed the date for normal sale, so I got it for $25. Gotta love it. Went back to the bus and got all the old stickers all cleaned off. Pulled the dome lights down. Wiped the whole ceiling down with a good degreaser and went to town.


Here is a pic of it half way through the first coat.



Here is the ceiling done with the first coat. Will do another coat tomorrow.



I have enough paint to cover the whole dash area too. I am now looking into some dynamat for the driver area and firewall. That crap is expensive. But I think it will be worth it. I will just be using it up front where the pink foam wouldn't work. Anyone have any experience with it? I was also looking at some knock off dynamat too. Here are some links. Let me know what you guys think. Or if you have any better ideas.

http://www.jegs.com/p/Thermo-Tec/The...56779/10002/-1

http://www.jegs.com/p/Thermo-Tec/The...58345/10002/-1
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