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Old 10-25-2009, 03:43 PM   #61
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The pic is a little deceiving. I did lose some, but only about 1 1/4 inch or so. Still plenty to step on there. Just looks tiny.
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:00 PM   #62
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I try man. Just trying to make mine look as productive as yours.

So today I did a couple things. Since I am not pulling the ceiling down or raising the roof I wanted to get some sort of insulation on the top. I figured I would use some Reflectix. The foil is a good radiant heat barrier, and it at least offers some sort of insulation. My cross beams are 25 inches apart, so I bought 24 inch Reflectix. The roof had no insulation in it so it slid right across with just a little fuss. Then I foil taped the edges down. It worked beautifully. Installed in under an hour. Plus because of the thinness of the insulation there is a gap between it and the roof metal. Perfect for radiant barrier. Im really happy with the way it turned out.







After finishing that up I went to the task of finishing up the window tint. Got about 3/4 of the drivers side done. I just really want to get that done so I can start framing the walls. Here are some of the windows tinted, and you can see the insulation coming down from the ceiling too.



Hopefully finish up the tint tomorrow and get going on the framing.
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:12 PM   #63
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Nice man, looks great... I am just gonna live by your progress on your bus till I get my chance!
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:36 PM   #64
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That's a great insulation job! I been wondering about my own roof for a while now. It's gotten down to 18 degrees and it will get a lot colder yet. But I just don't want to touch that metal roof, remove all those screws, etc... to do foam-board or something else. What a great idea, I can just slide it up there. Let us know how well it ends up insulating.

The gap you mentioned that makes the insulation work more effectively. I thought that was on the side you want insulated, not necessarily the back-side. So wouldn't it work more effectively if the insulation was pushed against the rooftop with a gap against the ceiling instead of resting down on the ceiling with a gap against the roof? or does it work well the other way around as well?
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:52 PM   #65
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Nice man, looks great... I am just gonna live by your progress on your bus till I get my chance!
Thanks man. Before you can get going you got to decide what your gonna do....keep buster or go shorty.

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That's a great insulation job! I been wondering about my own roof for a while now. It's gotten down to 18 degrees and it will get a lot colder yet. But I just don't want to touch that metal roof, remove all those screws, etc... to do foam-board or something else. What a great idea, I can just slide it up there. Let us know how well it ends up insulating.

The gap you mentioned that makes the insulation work more effectively. I thought that was on the side you want insulated, not necessarily the back-side. So wouldn't it work more effectively if the insulation was pushed against the rooftop with a gap against the ceiling instead of resting down on the ceiling with a gap against the roof? or does it work well the other way around as well?
I talked with an insulation guy here in town and he said it can work both ways. Putting it against the roof would be better i believe. But there is no way to do it without tearing into the ceiling. Technically its best if you can have space on both sides and have it stretched between something. I should know how well it works tomorrow morning when the bus is in the sun. I am not expecting it to change the world, but I think it will work better than nothing.

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Just as an after-thought, I wonder if you could have cut sheets of R-Max to 25", and slid them in the same way, even if you had to work 1/2 the sheet from each side? Of course I've got insulation on the brain (since my bus will serve an entirely different purpose), but someone else might be able to try it & see. Should make a huge difference, especially in addition to the tinted glass.

Lookin' good, and if you don't slow-down, I'll have to stop checkin' in Kidding of course.
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Smitty, I thought of that first and tried it. Whole or half it didnt work. Just too rigid to make that turn. All I accomplished was a wasted couple hours and a piece of R-max destroyed. I wish it would have worked....it would have been a little cheaper. But I really think it will work well. I also thought about buying the 4 foot wide Reflectix and cutting it wider to be a perfect fit, but honestly if I tried to go any wider it would have been really hard. The cross members have holes cut and they caught the insulation quite a bit. Some pieces went over really easy, while some were really a pain in the butt.

Just so you know....I don't plan on slowing down at all. I've got way to much energy to finish it quick. I want to get it done by the end of November. At least the interior. But who knows.
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:29 AM   #66
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Nice man, looks great... I am just gonna live by your progress on your bus till I get my chance!
Thanks man. Before you can get going you got to decide what your gonna do....keep buster or go shorty.
I think we are going shorty next spring/summer. I want to do it right & I think I need the correct bus first!
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Old 10-27-2009, 11:09 PM   #67
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That works man. Do it quick so you can start posting photos man. Haha.

So today I got all the window tint done. I wanted to finish it early enough to take some pics, but that didnt happen. I also wanted to finish it up in time to start framing the side walls, but that didn't happen either. So tomorrow I will take pics of the tint and start framing. The tint wasn't hard, just a pain and tedious. I wouldn't want to do it again. Just wasnt very fun or satisfying. I will say the tint and insulation made a HUGE difference in how hot the bus got today. It was so much nicer in there. No sweating today. Very nice. Now onto the fun stuff. Building.
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Old 10-27-2009, 11:42 PM   #68
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I think we are going shorty next spring/summer. I want to do it right & I think I need the correct bus first!
That works man. Do it quick so you can start posting photos man. Haha.
I guess I gotta sell Buster first which may be a challenge where I am now... Although it would make a cool vacation for the buyer!

You are making some good progress & since you are now a pro I will have about 20 windows for you to do when you come visit!

I think you need to add some glass blocks somewhere on your bus whether outside windows or on a wall inside.... let in "The Light"... I dunno, maybe too cheezy!
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:30 PM   #69
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I think you need to add some glass blocks somewhere on your bus whether outside windows or on a wall inside.... let in "The Light"... I dunno, maybe too cheezy!
Haha...no way. I hated tint by the end of it. I like the idea of letting the light in. But I think I am too tired at this moment to think of how to do it. Here is a final pic of the windows all tinted.



It was a long day today. Got started on the wall framing. Got a lot more done than I was expecting actually. Here is the frame base plate. I went with 2x3's for my framing. Strong, but saves a bit of space. Actually didn't save any money tho. 2x4's were cheaper. I dont understand why tho.



Here is what the framing looks like. The tops are screwed into the cross beams of the ceiling. Used a simple framing bracket to attach it to the walls. Notched for the chair rail, and screwed into the base plate.



I am only using 8 of the 22 windows on the bus. The others I screwed shut up into the metal window frame and up into the wire chase to help keep them watertight and from rattling.



The windows that I am not using are getting thick black plastic foil taped over them for further sealing and block all light. From the outside all the windows will look the same because of the tint. Once the electrical is all run through the framework then I will be insulating all this area with R-Max.



The 8 windows I am using are getting full sashes on top and bottom. The top one is a simple 2x3 that is flush with the top window. You can also see some R-max insulation above these. Already installed it.



The bottom of the windows I am using got a 2x3 cross beam, but the window sets in and the 2x3 doesn't look nice. So I used a 1x4 as a sash that sits flush with the center of the window. Only the top half of those 8 window will be used. The bottom half of these will get the same black plastic and R-max as the 14 windows I am not using.






So there is my work for the day. Got about 2/3 of the bus walls framed. Past both wheel wells. Went great. Tomorrow I finish the framing then start building beds. Im tired.
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Old 10-29-2009, 08:26 AM   #70
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All looks great..BUT what will you do if you have a window break....The glass, latches or just can't slide it very well.....When I did mine that was the way I was going to do it. Then the window game into play....You have to be very proud of what you have done with your bus.
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