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Old 01-24-2014, 03:41 PM   #11
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Re: BUBB 1990 Thomas, 72 passenger

wow, the picture came out sideways, the left side of the picture is the bottom of the bed, just tile your head to the left while looking at this picture
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Old 01-24-2014, 03:42 PM   #12
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Re: BUBB 1990 Thomas, 72 passenger

This is a picture of the bed bolted to the floor with an angle bracket.
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Old 01-24-2014, 03:47 PM   #13
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Re: BUBB 1990 Thomas, 72 passenger

I used home depot shelving to make the bunk beds, the shelves do not bolt to the vertical pieces so I had to do something to make sure the shelves don"t pop out when driving, I have my finger pointing to a bold which holds the shelf in place, all 4 corners of each shelf has a bolt like this.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Edsal-36-in- ... /100203714
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Old 01-24-2014, 06:00 PM   #14
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Re: BUBB 1990 Thomas, 72 passenger

Should work fine, as long as you fit in them
I would hit my head every morning
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Old 02-11-2014, 09:13 AM   #15
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Roof rack begins,

Roof Rack,
I have the first vertical support for the roof rack installed,
It is 2 inch square tube at 11ga, I am using 2 bolts for each vertical and they are grade 8 at 3/8 inch diameter and 6 inches long,
Just 2 simple holes through each of the internal bus vertical supports/frame bars and then bolt my square tube on the outside of the bus,
The board you see in the picture is not part of the rack it is just to allow me to measure to make sure the top will be 3 inches above the high point of the roof.
Note to self: It would have been easier to get the holes drilled if I had done them before I covered the outside of the windows and before I added insulation and walls to the inside off the bus.
It took a strong detergent and a stiff bristle brush to get the black powder stuff off of the tubes so I could sand, primer and paint them, must always remember to really wash/clean metal before you begin any sanding and painting.
I will be using the same 2 inch square tube for the horizontal supports, to test the 8ft long tube I put each end of the tube on blocks and then I stood in the center, My 220lb weight made the bar bend about 1/4 inch, when I bounced it bent to 1/2 inch, but remember this is all my weight in the center of the bar not distributed across the length of the bar as it will be when fully installed,
I had to grind off a 2 inch section of the rain gutter to get the tube to fit flush against the bus,
I drilled the two holes into each square tube first, then I held the bar in place with my hand as I started the higher drill hole through the bus frame, I then used a bolt to hold the tube in place before I drilled the lower hole into the frame, it is important not to drill the holes into the bus first since the hole are not likely to line up properly, since I do not have a drill press my drilled holes are never totally straight, and being just a 16th of an inch off will prevent the bolt from fitting,
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Old 02-11-2014, 09:15 AM   #16
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First roof rack vertical support

First roof rack vertical support,
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Old 02-20-2014, 04:02 PM   #17
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Re: BUBB 1990 Thomas, 72 passenger

I am half way through installing my wood burning stove,
The picture shows the stove bolted to some plywood which is covered by sheet metal and a one inch thick ceramic blanket, the blanket can withstand 2300 degrees,
From what I have read a wood stove must be 36 inches away from any material that can burn, if you put up a sheet of metal then it can be 18 inches away, if you add other insulation then it can be closer.

For my installation I will have a one inch air space (open at the ends) above the ceramic blanket so some of the heat can escape.
From closest to the stove going out it will be metal sheet, one inch air space, one inch ceramic blanket then another sheet of metal,

The spacers I have picked are 2 inch tall metal wall outlets/fixtures, they are bolted to the base and will be bolted to the wall also to create a 2in space there, I then bolted the stove legs to the fixtures,

The stove will be surrounded on 5 sides by insulated walls, I will need to put some type of metal screen on the front to act as a door.

It uses a 4in stovepipe, I will use a doublewall pipe from the stove to the ceiling, I will use a 4-6 feet tall double wall chimney on the outside of the bus, double wall pipe on the outside will help prevent creosote buildup, I want it that tall so the smoke does not deposit on the solar panels, while driving the pipe will be laying down and secured with some type of cap on the hole, I intend to use bolts and wing nuts to hold the pipe up when using the stove.

http://www.walltentshop.com/Cylinder.html
is where I purchased the stove, I got the small one, the cylinder scout model,

I hope it works out, once it is installed and burning I will get some temperature readings on the walls to make sure the insulation is working as advertised,

And yes, I will have 3 large fire extinguishers, 2 co2 detectors, not sure if a smoke alarm can exist with the stove,
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Old 03-03-2014, 05:28 PM   #18
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Re: BUBB 1990 Thomas, 72 passenger

I ran the stove for 4 hours today, it all worked fine.
I finished putting the sheet metal to cover the insulation from the picture above.
Currently I have the left side and the base insulated with one inch of air and one inch of ceramic insulation, the ceramic is similar in form to fiberglass but a little denser,

The base is about a foot under the stove and only got to about 120/130 degrees. No heat made it through the base to heat up underneath.
The left and rear wall got up to about 140 degrees and no heat made it through to the back of the wall.
The ceiling which has not yet been insulated for the stove got up to at least 160 degrees, it is about 18in above the stove.
I will be getting a heat sensor to get better temperatures and not just my guesses.
Within about 2 minutes the air near the ceiling was noticeably warmer and within 15 minutes it was 70 degrees near the ceiling, the floor got up to 40 degrees (outside temp was 25). The top 3 feet of air was warm and the bottom 3 was colder.
With the use of a fan the floor made it to 50 degrees and stayed there.
I kept the stove half full, I used about 8ft of a 2x4 to keep the bus warm, I dont think filling the stove full could cause any problems but I dont see a need unless it was much colder. The stove thermometer showed a temp of between 600-800 degrees.
My 5 year old CO detector kept a reading of zero the entire time (floor and ceiling), I did not notice any apparent issues with my health, fyi as a paramedic I had mild CO poisoning on several occasions and I had none of those symptoms.
I intend to look around for some type of gas sensor for accurate readings.
Other than CO what other gasses would I want to take a reading on?
I put a small piece of the ceramic insulation in the stove for 3 hours and it did not burn at all, just got a little dusty.
The paint on the ceiling got a little sticky due to the heat
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Old 05-19-2014, 07:04 PM   #19
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Re: BUBB 1990 Thomas, 72 passenger

I purchased 6 solar panels from dmsolar.com, I am having a heck of a time with the company, the glue holding the electric box is coming undone after being mounted for only a month, they are telling me to just buy some glue and fix it myself, very rude and condescending, I am dealing with the manager from what I am being told, he is an ass, will never purchase from them again,
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Old 05-19-2014, 09:15 PM   #20
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Re: BUBB 1990 Thomas, 72 passenger

If you are having issues getting what is obviously a manufacturer issue resolved I would suggest a couple things.
1. Let them know you are filing a complaint with the BBB, then do so at this link: http://www.bbb.org/south-east-florid...le-fl-92005811
2. Send a certified letter to the business owners address as found here: http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/Cor.../dmsolar/Page1 In the letter include all the details about your problem (pics would help) as well as all the info you can supply of your hassles with the employees. You'd be surprised at how many owners have no clue what their managers are doing. If you have email documentation send that as well. Lastly include your desired resolution to the problem e.g. "I would like $50 to cover cost of glue and time" or whatever you are looking for. Be specific and reasonable in your request to rectify the situation.
Whatever you do, do not lose your cool and do not do these things halfway. If you have to file the BBB complaint the ALSO send the letter to the owner. He/She is who you want to work with to resolve this.
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