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09-12-2017, 09:02 PM
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#21
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 108
Year: 1999
Coachwork: International
Engine: 3800 T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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We've played around with a few designs. I think this is going to be what we need. It accommodates 4. TV/Living area, kitchen area, large person sized bath, study desk (16in wide), and a king sized bed.
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09-13-2017, 02:08 PM
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#22
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 108
Year: 1999
Coachwork: International
Engine: 3800 T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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Won an auction!
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09-13-2017, 02:42 PM
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#23
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,830
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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yeaaayyy!! bluebird!! 444E looks like mine under the hood!
wow looks like they ordered it with no right hand or rear heaters.. stuff you dont have to deal with for conversion.
-Christopher
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09-13-2017, 02:57 PM
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#24
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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Awesome ! Looks to be a good platform.
No more dreaming- time to build !
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09-13-2017, 05:16 PM
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#25
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 108
Year: 1999
Coachwork: International
Engine: 3800 T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
yeaaayyy!! bluebird!! 444E looks like mine under the hood!
wow looks like they ordered it with no right hand or rear heaters.. stuff you dont have to deal with for conversion.
-Christopher
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I want the ac and heat from a ductless mini split... im hoping to strip all un-nessisary off... anyways, who want to run the engine for ac?
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09-14-2017, 06:48 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA
Posts: 23
Year: 1987
Coachwork: Wayne Lifeguard
Chassis: International S1853
Engine: 9.0L V8 Diesel
Rated Cap: 72
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I didn't read every post, and from the looks of your latest floor plan, I believe it chanegd. But, just in case, I'll share anyway.
DO NOT keep your propane in an enclosed space right next to something producing spark (the generator). Well ventilated, and at least 5ft from anything producing spark.
Mine is mounted under the bus, like this
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09-14-2017, 06:57 AM
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#27
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by syntel
I'm looking at diesel. I'm pricing new at retailers so I don't have availability issues... I'm looking at:
Generac XD 5,000-Watt Diesel Powered Electric Start Portable Generator-6864 - The Home Depot
The Mini Split AC's 12K BTU @ 15A. That's 1800W each - 3600W. That'll leave some room to make coffee while the vehicle is underway and ACed. =) I'm a big coffee person, especially while driving/traveling.
But, based on a 32 hour run on 12 gallons, if I were to connect tat to the bus tank... LOL. 66 gallons at 0.375 gallons per hour. Leave 1/4 tank reserve... That's 120 hour (5 days) run time. My goal was something like 48-72 hour. Gas didn't get me there, diesel does.
It saves some weight - don't need extra fuel or tanks. I can "sound proof" the enclosure assuming I leave breathing room.
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That's a decent generator, but for that kinda dough, I'd shop around.
I have that Yanmar engine on a lawnmower and its a GREAT engine. But That's silly money for a 5kw jobsite style genny, IMO.
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09-14-2017, 06:57 PM
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#28
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 108
Year: 1999
Coachwork: International
Engine: 3800 T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeeLDub
I didn't read every post, and from the looks of your latest floor plan, I believe it chanegd. But, just in case, I'll share anyway.
DO NOT keep your propane in an enclosed space right next to something producing spark (the generator). Well ventilated, and at least 5ft from anything producing spark.
Mine is mounted under the bus, like this
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I'm going to put the propane in the back, inside a propane locker that is airtight and drains through the floor. I'll have a lid and a hole through the bottom allowing any leakage to seek the bottom and out the bus.
Sailboat style installation. Probably event do a 12v shutoff remote shut-off valve like on sailboats.
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09-14-2017, 06:58 PM
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#29
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 108
Year: 1999
Coachwork: International
Engine: 3800 T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeeLDub
I didn't read every post, and from the looks of your latest floor plan, I believe it chanegd. But, just in case, I'll share anyway.
DO NOT keep your propane in an enclosed space right next to something producing spark (the generator). Well ventilated, and at least 5ft from anything producing spark.
Mine is mounted under the bus, like this
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Bad ass install - look 100% above the drive shaft... Thanks! I might consider that. I need to get the bus here so I can start measuring things.
Do you have a link to the brackets you used?
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09-14-2017, 07:01 PM
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#30
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 108
Year: 1999
Coachwork: International
Engine: 3800 T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
That's a decent generator, but for that kinda dough, I'd shop around.
I have that Yanmar engine on a lawnmower and its a GREAT engine. But That's silly money for a 5kw jobsite style genny, IMO.
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I'm still stuck on the generator choice.... IDK. For the cost of diesel - it's stupid expensive. But gasoline... I know on the sailboat - gasoline is not allowed.
Any recommendations? Links?
I know who Yanmar is - the sailboat has a 15hp one. It runs like a champ for being made in 1986 I believe.
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09-14-2017, 07:26 PM
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#31
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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What about a used diesel RV genset?
A brand new one isn't too far off from what that jobsite generator costs.
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09-15-2017, 05:02 AM
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#33
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Do what you want. I thought it HAD to be diesel?
A used GOOD generator is WAY preferable to a new POS jobsite gennny. But its your money.
You linked a 4 thousand dollar diesel gen, so I figured why not go with a gently used Onan Quiet Diesel genset.
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09-15-2017, 06:19 AM
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#34
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA
Posts: 23
Year: 1987
Coachwork: Wayne Lifeguard
Chassis: International S1853
Engine: 9.0L V8 Diesel
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by syntel
Bad ass install - look 100% above the drive shaft... Thanks! I might consider that. I need to get the bus here so I can start measuring things.
Do you have a link to the brackets you used?
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Amazon
No complaints so far!
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09-16-2017, 10:18 PM
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#35
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 108
Year: 1999
Coachwork: International
Engine: 3800 T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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I had started a project around Christmas... then carol tunnel surgery, life, work, etc. I've made furniture before, this is a chest of drawers to match a hope chest a made a few years back. I have to finish one project before starting another (the bus).
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09-16-2017, 11:11 PM
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#36
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 108
Year: 1999
Coachwork: International
Engine: 3800 T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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Does anyone know anything about these military surplus diesel generators?
https://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/au...ew?auc=1933969
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09-17-2017, 04:28 AM
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#37
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by syntel
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I have a few military diesel gensets. Heavy.
24V starting needed
ad says: 3-phase, but they are easily reconfigurable.
They are designed to be run continuously. The one you pictured has the sound enclosure. I don't see why you couldn't use on a bus build once you figured out the exhaust and such.
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09-17-2017, 07:31 AM
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#38
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: pa
Posts: 2,502
Year: 98
Coachwork: 1. Corbeil & 2. Thomas
Chassis: 1 ford 1998 e350 4x4 7.3 2 mercedes 2004
Engine: 7.3 powerstroke & MBE906
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I have a couple of 5kw mil units. a far as I know the 3 KW are air cooled.
the military has so many verisons so you will have to google.
I need water cooled units so I can reuse the heat more easily.
Later J
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09-17-2017, 12:07 PM
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#39
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: SE Florida
Posts: 1,108
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 65 pax
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Looks pretty much like my 2003... congratulations!
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09-18-2017, 08:06 PM
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#40
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 108
Year: 1999
Coachwork: International
Engine: 3800 T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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I scheduled the pickup of the bus. We'll be going from San Antonio to Houston.
I called the DMV and inquired about reconstructed titles, one-way permits, etc. Through TxDMV.gov, they have a temporary permit system:
https://rts.texasonline.state.tx.us/TempPermit/#nbb
It allows you to pay for a "one-way" permit. You need to have the VIN, insurance, and a CC to put $10 on. You'll specify a effective date and the PDF permit is valid for approximately 14 days. You will also need to provide a start and end points - I put the city names in those fields.
Calling the DMV was a pain to get someone. I tried the 1-800 number, then gave up and looked up the main office for Houston. Tried that nnumber. When accessing their phone sytem was a joke. Option number 4 would put you on hold for a minute or two and drop you back to the menu. I finally hit zero out of frustration and a human answered without a wait.
I didn't know what to do with the bus and all most asserted hat having the title as a reconstructed motor home was impossible... I reassured him it's not, I know a few examples in Texas.
I sent him the following and he told me that he would forward my request to someone in Austin that would know more.
http://extlists.txdmv.gov/pipermail/...attachment.pdf
Motor Vehicle Title Manual > Ch 14 Motor Homes > Converted Trucks and Buses
Used trucks, truck-tractor and buses, which have been reconstructed or converted to contain living quarters, should title as Motor Homes and register with passenger plates. Owners should support the title application with a photograph of the interior and exterior, a weight certificate verifying the gross weight, and a Rebuilt Vehicle Statement, Form VTR-61 explaining the alteration. The make, year model, and vehicle identification number should be the same as that shown on the title covering the truck, truck-tractor or bus.
Note: When the certificate of title is issued for this type of vehicle, the notation “Reconstructed” appears.
Now I wait for a reply.
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