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Old 07-23-2005, 01:37 PM   #41
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Do it...

I'd totally put thompsons on the wood. Anyway to make that wood as durable as possible for all the work it will be doing. In fact, as I'm typing this, I'd put those 3 or 4 coats since once the floor is done, I don't really have any plans to pull all that crap up again. Some might call it over kill I call it not wanting to do this EVER again or at least not for several years yet. Well, I think no matter how much coating you do, some water will be absorbed by the wood. Making sure to really prep the metal w/ some kind of rusting resistant stuff helps but you know, one can only do so much with an all steel hull.

I tried to start de-rusting but after a while just rolled my eyes up and said forget it. Once all the wood is gone I'll worry about derusting. By then I'll have all the stuff necessary to make it a week end project of filling holes, patching pits and the like. What are you using to take up large areas of rust? I have just a small angle grinder and with nearly 30 feet of floor, that 4 1/2 isn't going to cut it.
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Old 07-23-2005, 02:18 PM   #42
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I just finished all the de-rusting and put my first coat of "rust stopping" paint on. I hope that stuff works... I have heard many claims, but in order to stop rust completley I still think you have to take it down to bare metal, on the top and bottom. Which would mean that you would have to de-rust the bottom and then do a complete new undercoating. Now while my undercoating is still mosly intact I still suspect a there is some rust there. My point being, anti-rust paint and such works only as well as the prep time you are willing to commit to the project.

Anyways, im just gonna paint the metal best I can and the wood too. As you have said, I im thinking it's a good idea, as the rust is almost inevitable.

As for removing the rust, I too only have a 4 1/2 grinder which I used for bad areas, and I was contimplating buying a bigger one. I imagine if I had a larger Bus then I would, it would make a big difference. Then I went over everything with a Wire brush, and then I sanded everything with 36 Grit so the paint would stick. I did manage to get the floor down to bare metal in most places tho. As I said tho... my bus is small and with a larger one I would wish for larger tools (for the sake of my back and the balls of my feet).

What are you using to patch your floor?
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Old 07-24-2005, 01:03 AM   #43
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You might want to consider the odor of the wood sealer. I used that stuff on a wood deck a few years ago and it smelled like mineral spirits for months. You can buy treated marine grade plywood. Though the cost is not pretty.
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Old 07-24-2005, 11:11 PM   #44
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Hmmmm, if thats the case with wood sealers-I might have to employ my aromatherpathy skills and add something neuralizing to it. Still, a few days in the so. cal summer sun before putting it down would lessen the smell somewhat.

I found this on the web:
http://www.therustdoctor.com/

Think its worth it? After say patching some of the bad spots w/ bondo.

Bondo, Dan-o is body filler putty like stuff the skoolies here and else were have used to fill in the metal floor that has been pitted by rust. My understanding (as I've not use it yet) is that it works pretty good filling in the worst spots but won't stop the rust.

Anyone else wanna add to my lessor knowledge?
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Old 07-25-2005, 02:43 PM   #45
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That stuff sounds a lot like (por-15) I think the name is. It converts the rust and stops it. It sounds like a similar product. I know a lot of people that have used Por-15 with good results. Here is an excerpt from the website. From what they say it sounds like it stops the rust.

"Metal treated with Rust Doctor (notice how the rust is converted to black magnetite, which is inert and will not rust)."
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Old 07-25-2005, 03:40 PM   #46
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Yes, seen many paint's like this on the web... I would think that they will be expensive. I have this Marine grade "rust stopping" paint which I got for a reasonable price, and I think that with adequate prep work, it should do the job quite well.

Bondo, I know the product well, I am now using a Bondo product that has fiberglass in it. Same application as the regular, but I believe that once it cures it is quite a bit stronger, so it's better for larger applications, or if you just want a little overkill.
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Old 07-25-2005, 03:42 PM   #47
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I think it's called "Bondo-Glass"
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Old 07-26-2005, 06:45 PM   #48
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sounds like were working on the same faze. we finally have all the wood up and have uncovered our very rust floor. i have wired brushed the whole floor with a right angle drill took a few hours and then cleaned up. next we are putting Osfoe on the bare clean floor. it neutralizes rust. terrible for the earth, though. Osfoe is a marine supply. then i am going to weld in some new patches, i think and then onto bondo.
i wish i was going to burning man this year. next year i hope.
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Old 07-26-2005, 08:47 PM   #49
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Yes Next year is my goal too, "The Pig" (bus) made it down last year, I rented it to a friend. It got me Interested.

Good luck with the floor, man it sucked doing mine, can't imagine what it must be like with your bus... since it's just a little bigger
But once you get on to the framing I think is when the real rewards start showing.
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Old 07-31-2005, 12:55 AM   #50
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sounds like were working on the same faze. we finally have all the wood up and have uncovered our very rust floor. i have wired brushed the whole floor with a right angle drill took a few hours and then cleaned up. next we are putting Osfoe on the bare clean floor. it neutralizes rust. terrible for the earth, though. Osfoe is a marine supply. then i am going to weld in some new patches, i think and then onto bondo.
i wish i was going to burning man this year. next year i hope.
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Yeah we are, but you are moving WAY faster than I

I pulled up another stubborn section of floor now only two plus what's under the driver seat and electrical area remain.

Today I got out the front right heater-what a mess! 17yrs of crap and garbage plus the little antifreeze that spilled out all congeling to make a goopy sloppy mudpile on the floor. Some antifreeze escaped through some area of the floor where there must be a hole or something.

Not sure if I'll be doing any welding I just hope the anti rust stuff works! I took the grinder wheel to the metal to remove some screws and found just a bit of left and right took the worst coats off leaving pitted metal in some spots. Bondo I think will take care of that but stronger stuff you are using Lea sounds better for tackling the rust. I'll have to read up on all of it to make a better decision.
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