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Old 02-15-2012, 04:53 PM   #1
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But how much did that bus cost new?

We all know about how much a used school bus sells for but I had no idea how much they cost new until this just showed up in my local newspaper:


"The purchase of eight new school busses generated an interesting discussion about priorities at the Feb. 7th Farmington Public Schools Board of Education meeting.

The school district's Transportation Department uses a 12 year school bus replacement cycle. After a bus serves for 12 years, the district disposes of it or keeps it as a spare.

The recommendation, which ultimately passed 4-2, sought five 75-passenger busses at approximately $531,000, two 21-passenger special education busses able to handle wheelchairs for approximately $197,000, and a 12-passenger special-education bus for almost $68,000 - a total of not quite $800,000. The pricing came through the Michigan School Business Official's School Bus Bid Program.

The busses also required Espar heaters to start them in cold weather at a cost of $2100 each. "


Holy freaking crap! that's $106,000 a piece for the biggies and 68K for a shortie! For that price you'd think they'd at least come with a nice sound system and some sharp wheel covers.

The article went on to say that the transportation director didn't think the new busses were a priority but the board decided to buy them anyway to avoid "busses breaking down at the side of the road and parents wondering why their kids were late."

For 106K I say let the kids push the thing back to the garage.

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Old 02-15-2012, 05:12 PM   #2
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Re: But how much did that bus cost new?

Here in CA, a new full sized Thomas or Bluebird will set you back about $165,000. Add another $10,000 or so if you want air conditioning
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Old 02-16-2012, 07:42 AM   #3
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Re: But how much did that bus cost new?

I'm assuming that is for dog nosed buses, which doesn't seem all that expensive when you consider that it's real easy to spend $30,000 on a pickup truck.
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Old 04-23-2019, 08:28 PM   #4
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We all know about how much a used school bus sells for but I had no idea how much they cost new until this just showed up in my local newspaper:


"The purchase of eight new school busses generated an interesting discussion about priorities at the Feb. 7th Farmington Public Schools Board of Education meeting.

The school district's Transportation Department uses a 12 year school bus replacement cycle. After a bus serves for 12 years, the district disposes of it or keeps it as a spare.

The recommendation, which ultimately passed 4-2, sought five 75-passenger busses at approximately $531,000, two 21-passenger special education busses able to handle wheelchairs for approximately $197,000, and a 12-passenger special-education bus for almost $68,000 - a total of not quite $800,000. The pricing came through the Michigan School Business Official's School Bus Bid Program.

The busses also required Espar heaters to start them in cold weather at a cost of $2100 each. "


Holy freaking crap! that's $106,000 a piece for the biggies and 68K for a shortie! For that price you'd think they'd at least come with a nice sound system and some sharp wheel covers.

The article went on to say that the transportation director didn't think the new busses were a priority but the board decided to buy them anyway to avoid "busses breaking down at the side of the road and parents wondering why their kids were late."

For 106K I say let the kids push the thing back to the garage.
I was Google searching for what a new school bus cost when I found this old post. I was thinking that if someone wanted to start with a new bus, maybe buying a basic “shell” (no windows, no warning lights, stripped interior) the price might be in the $50k range. Then put another $20-30k to complete the build and have an rv that would last forever, all new mechanical systems, warranty, etc. Boy was I WAY off in price!!!
Alternate idea would be to buy a good used bus and proactively refurbish all the mechanical systems to make it as reliable as possible. Expensive up front but good for peace of mind, reliability, and safety.
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Old 04-23-2019, 09:18 PM   #5
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FWIW. Our 2000 TC1000 w/air brakes, air door, 2 ACs, handicap lift lists for $37,000 new per the official at AZ MVD office. He looked it up in a BIG book.
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FWIW. Our 2000 TC1000 w/air brakes, air door, 2 ACs, handicap lift lists for $37,000 new per the official at AZ MVD office. He looked it up in a BIG book.
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Old 04-24-2019, 06:55 AM   #7
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FWIW. Our 2000 TC1000 w/air brakes, air door, 2 ACs, handicap lift lists for $37,000 new per the official at AZ MVD office. He looked it up in a BIG book.

In WA state the official price quote for a brand new BB Type D FE bus with 48-pax seating with an average of center-to-center seat spacing of 27.5", with a lift, with hydraulic disc brakes, 200 HP Cummins B6.7, power service door, Allison PTS2500, and six 11.00x22.5 tires is $104,591.00.



A Thomas Saf-T-Liner EF equipped the same way has an official quote price of $101,519.00.


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Old 04-24-2019, 09:38 AM   #8
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I stopped at the Bluebird dealer and looked at a new RE. Salesman told me that it was $140k.
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When I bought my bus, the original invoice was included with the maintenance records. I believe it was $69k, but this could have been a package price if multiple buses where purchased at once. 2004 International CE200 T444E 8 window, hydraulic brakes. FWIW. 14 years later I bought it for $2200 with 170k miles...
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