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Old 04-20-2012, 12:14 PM   #221
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I officially have heat in the bus! . At least I can continue working even if the weather gets cold.
Shouldn't you be thinking about Air Conditioning? Our bus hit 85F yesterday with 91F exterior temps. We need to get the cooling unit put together SOON. Just need to put the whole Heat/Air system together (ours is will be interconnected Hydronic). I do think we need to figure out how to turn off the cool and turn on the heat for overnight lows (it gets pretty chilly here at night) and back again without having to go outside to switch the circulating fluid over to the different circuits. I need to look up a remote solenoid or plumb a valve inside. Valve would be cheaper and less likely to fail. Something to figure out before installing. Very recently we had days in the 90's and nights in the 30's (cold front). That's pretty chilly when I am getting up at 3AM to get dressed and go to work! Brrrr!
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:56 PM   #222
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its -4c right now, and we just had a snow storm, 5inch wet snow, plow went by yesterday. In canada we think heat first. ,
anyway furnace looks good, thats the set up i have , built the kitchen sink and counter around it.

your bus is looking great.

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Old 04-20-2012, 01:48 PM   #223
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I officially have heat in the bus! . At least I can continue working even if the weather gets cold.
Shouldn't you be thinking about Air Conditioning? Our bus hit 85F yesterday with 91F exterior temps. We need to get the cooling unit put together SOON. Just need to put the whole Heat/Air system together (ours is will be interconnected Hydronic). I do think we need to figure out how to turn off the cool and turn on the heat for overnight lows (it gets pretty chilly here at night) and back again without having to go outside to switch the circulating fluid over to the different circuits. I need to look up a remote solenoid or plumb a valve inside. Valve would be cheaper and less likely to fail. Something to figure out before installing. Very recently we had days in the 90's and nights in the 30's (cold front). That's pretty chilly when I am getting up at 3AM to get dressed and go to work! Brrrr!
No wonder you preach "Insulation!"... I would too if temps varied that wildly around here!
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:18 PM   #224
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Air conditioner was installed last spring. It was used quite frequently throughout the summer. My AC unit has the heat strip accessory, and while it seems to work okay, I found a simple 1200w electric heater/fan works much better and quieter than the heat strip. I had to get the furnace running this season not only because my counters will need to be built to fit around it, will need to be designed to ensure proper ducting, but also because it is easier to run the propane lines without cramming into a little tiny cabinet space. Also, because it is still early spring in Canada! It could snow, rain, shine, who the heck knows from day to day. My build-it time seems to go from 'just warm enough to work' until 'camping season' begins. After that we are using the bus for the summer and after that it gets too cold to work in it again.
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Old 04-20-2012, 06:22 PM   #225
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... it is easier to run the propane lines without cramming into a little tiny cabinet space...
But cramming yourself into a tiny space and working is so much fun. Especially if you have to squeeze a tool in that takes up most of the space... and if it has a sharp rapidly spinning thingy on it... so much more fun! Oh the joys of converting a bus!
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:46 PM   #226
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Don't forget the potential for leaky gas fittings that are hard to test in a small enclosed space. You just test those with a lighter, right?
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yay heat!!
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You know what I'm talkin' about! Gotta keep the igloo comfortable!
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Old 04-21-2012, 10:25 AM   #229
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... No wonder you preach "Insulation!"... I would too if temps varied that wildly around here!
Not just here in the NM desert. A temp swing of 20 to 30 in the Southern Appalachian Mountains (think Great Smokies NP) is not uncommon particularly in the spring and fall. More insulation means your heating and cooling systems won't cycle on as often or use as much energy as with minimal insulation. So insulation is a big thing with me. Also I'm frugal. Investing more into insulation now, keeps more $$ in my pocket later when it gets really hot (inside stays cooler) or really cold (my heat stays inside rather than getting wicked out thru heat sinks).

Right now, we have no insulation on the sidewalls except for the original bus insulation, same as for the roof. The sidewalls flat heat up due to the the rivets. Exterior rivets get heated up by the sun, they in turn heat up the metal frame which transfers the heat to the interior rivets which get so hot that I can't keep my hand on them. Solution will be to use solid foam insulation on the sidewalls (and floor). The SolarFlex on the roof appears to create a heat barrier, as well as sealing the tiny leak on the roof. I check the roof temps all the time. The 400 Million rivets at the frame/seams get only marginally warmer during the day than the rest of the ceiling which stays quite cool. I also kept checking the rivets during the winter. and found the same. The SolarFlex creates a good barrier so that the rivets do not act as a heat sink. I am very happy with the ceiling temps.


As side note..... I finally ran out of LP. We are only using LP to cook with, just like on the Class C with it's 22" RV LP range. My home range (30" standard GE Profile) ran thru a 20 lb tank in 2 months (plus a couple of days). I have been cooking a lot on the stove top as well as using the oven quite a bit more. More than "normal" compared to when we were in the Class C. That means I got an extra month out of the standard home range LP usage over the smaller RV range LP usage. Unreal! I knew the RV range was not the best on LP usage but to double, that's incredible. Just thought I would put that out there for those who are thinking that by going with the RV range, they will be saving fuel. Could be of interest to any of the folks who plan on boondocking a lot. They may want to give up the 6" to 8" space difference for a 30" more efficient home range (and you can fit those yummy 16" Take 'n Bake pizzas from Sam's Club in a 30" range without cutting it into pieces first). I have heard the apt size Premier Peerless ranges are good on LP and cook well. Highly touted by the off-grid solar groups. In case you want/need to stay at 24" wide. Don't forget to get the piezo ignition, not the standing pilot ignition no matter what stove you get. You can still light the top burners with a match and no power but you can't use the oven without power (uses little power that can be supplied from batteries with a small low cost inverter).

Now I need to go bake up a batch of brownies for David IN MY OVEN!!! I love my range.
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Old 04-22-2012, 07:09 PM   #230
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Well, now that I have my furnace working...it's too hot to work without A/C.

I spent the last two hours wiring up my new electrical panel so that I can turn on my A/C unit. Now I can run A/C in the daytime and heat in the early mornings and evenings. Of course this time of year who knows which one you are going to turn on from day to day. Two days ago I was running the furnace in the house and the last two days I have been running the A/C.
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