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Old 12-17-2011, 01:05 PM   #11
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Do not use contact cement. It does not hold up to getting wet very well. It WILL fail if it gets wet both often enough and long enough.
Actually, the really nasty, caustic stuff (the original contact cement) will hold up fantastically. I'm not talking about the new, low VOC, water soluable pansy stuff. I'm talkin' the mates-for-life, super bonding elephant snot. Boyscouts use this stuff on their 'canvas kayaks'. Literally coat the canvas, glue it to the wood, paint with exterior latex, and paddle away. I just didn't mention the painting part in the first post.

That being said, however, I do prefer mchunt's idea of sculpting fiberglass over foam to look like a real canvas cover. The idea could be expanded to make the vertical supports look more rounded. There's all kinds of fun things that can be done with foam and fiberglass!
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Old 12-17-2011, 03:52 PM   #12
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Do not use contact cement. It does not hold up to getting wet very well. It WILL fail if it gets wet both often enough and long enough.
Actually, the really nasty, caustic stuff (the original contact cement) will hold up fantastically. I'm not talking about the new, low VOC, water soluable pansy stuff. I'm talkin' the mates-for-life, super bonding elephant snot. Boyscouts use this stuff on their 'canvas kayaks'. Literally coat the canvas, glue it to the wood, paint with exterior latex, and paddle away. I just didn't mention the painting part in the first post.

That being said, however, I do prefer mchunt's idea of sculpting fiberglass over foam to look like a real canvas cover. The idea could be expanded to make the vertical supports look more rounded. There's all kinds of fun things that can be done with foam and fiberglass!
I like it!. Whenever you need crazy ideas LMK, according to everybody who knows me I am a nutcase on the loose!.
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Old 12-17-2011, 05:48 PM   #13
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Do not use contact cement. It does not hold up to getting wet very well. It WILL fail if it gets wet both often enough and long enough.
Actually, the really nasty, caustic stuff (the original contact cement) will hold up fantastically. I'm not talking about the new, low VOC, water soluable pansy stuff. I'm talkin' the mates-for-life, super bonding elephant snot. Boyscouts use this stuff on their 'canvas kayaks'. Literally coat the canvas, glue it to the wood, paint with exterior latex, and paddle away. I just didn't mention the painting part in the first post.
The last time we bought the "real deal" in other words the professional stuff in 5 gallon buckets because we were building a custom laminate countertop, we had to sign forms and PROVE (with tax id's) that we were buying it for our business. But maybe they have loosened up the rules on that. I didn't think they sold that stuff anymore. I know the EPA, among others, was trying to phase it out back in the early 90's.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:11 AM   #14
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The last time we bought the "real deal" in other words the professional stuff in 5 gallon buckets because we were building a custom laminate countertop, we had to sign forms and PROVE (with tax id's) that we were buying it for our business. But maybe they have loosened up the rules on that. I didn't think they sold that stuff anymore. I know the EPA, among others, was trying to phase it out back in the early 90's.
That may still be true for a full 5 gallon bucket. My local blue box lumber store doesn't carry anything in that quantity, but they will sell you as many little quarts of the crap as you can carry out the door and not bat an eye.
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That's NOT the same stuff. At a guess, we are talking about two different products. While some of the industrial contact cement we used was made by Weldwood, it was not the same stuff as what was sold in the small cans in any hardware store. We've used both the stuff sold to consumers and the pro stuff. The consumer stuff does not hold as well or as long. It's okay and does the job, but just not as good.
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I'll try the Henry;s Solarflex, I was leery of the fabric idea and the responses so far haven't instilled a great deal of confidence

Does anyone have thought on adding something to either the solarflex or other elastomeric coating to enhance texture? What about tinting buskote (what would tint buskote or other elastomeric coatings?)

I do plan to post some interior photos, I just got it cleaned out again as I had used it for a moving van for recent relocation.

The pictures were taken at an RV Park (dare I say resort) that I managed for 4 years in Oregon, since retired and relocated to high desert in California.
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I'll try the Henry;s Solarflex, I was leery of the fabric idea and the responses so far haven't instilled a great deal of confidence

Does anyone have thought on adding something to either the solarflex or other elastomeric coating to enhance texture? What about tinting buskote (what would tint buskote or other elastomeric coatings?)

I do plan to post some interior photos, I just got it cleaned out again as I had used it for a moving van for recent relocation.

The pictures were taken at an RV Park (dare I say resort) that I managed for 4 years in Oregon, since retired and relocated to high desert in California.

Sculpting panels is a litt;e more then I feel comfortable trying.
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I don't think the fabric idea is all together bad if you use a synthetic cloth. I think you should try it out before committing to the entire roof. You might build a 4 ft wide "model" section and see how it works.

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Do you mean something like a non-skid additive?

As far as adding something for color, since the elastomeric coating is water based I think you could add the same tinting used for any water based paint. Do a search for "univeral tints" on Amazon.
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