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Old 06-27-2014, 11:12 PM   #31
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I don't care how slightly built you are your keister is still wider than the commode.
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Old 06-29-2014, 07:53 PM   #32
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Just how narrow are you then? My best friend is 5'3" and 160. when the four of us (me him and the wives) were looking for ideas at the rv show there was one model that was so tight for space he couldn't sit on the toilet.
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Old 06-30-2014, 12:53 AM   #33
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Orangepeel91: definitely not using the tub as a tub unless we are hooked up. I'm not that crazy. Most of the time anyway. So do I need to worry about the weight of my water tanks with my bluebird than? With eight of us I was thinking of doing 200 gallon fresh and 200 gallon grey. (I don't need black with the composting toilet I am getting.) Would that just be too much for it? Would I have to weigh it to be sure? I assume mine would be rated about the same as yours? Good point about the toilet. I will move things around. I am not a little girl.

PDBreske: I definitely plan on doing mock ups once we get a new subfloor down before I do anything permanent. Very good point about the hammocks and a part I forgot about. You can get across the hammocks when people are sleeping super easy as they hang 7 feet up in a U type shape but you have to walk close to the wall. I put stuff in the way, dang... Well redo over again for me. Thanks for pointing that out. Too many things to keep in mind I tell you.
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:35 AM   #34
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Seats all demolished and starting on the floor.
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Old 06-30-2014, 02:11 AM   #35
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Seats all demolished and starting on the floor.
looking good so far, keep the pics coming!
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Old 06-30-2014, 02:00 PM   #36
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So do I need to worry about the weight of my water tanks with my bluebird than? With eight of us I was thinking of doing 200 gallon fresh and 200 gallon grey. (I don't need black with the composting toilet I am getting.) Would that just be too much for it? Would I have to weigh it to be sure? I assume mine would be rated about the same as yours? Good point about the toilet. I will move things around. I am not a little girl.
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Um... I'd check the capacity on the composting toilet you're getting... I think most are designed for much lighter use than eight people! I think you'll have problems with actually composting - it'll fill up too quick, and you'll end up with a port-a-john type thing, complete with smells, that will need to be emptied fairly often. Definitely call the company and talk to a rep and explain what you're using it for, and how many people will be using it. Better safe than sorry.
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Old 06-30-2014, 08:11 PM   #37
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jqmello: This is from the website of the toilet.

"Capacity - How often should the toilet be emptied?
If four people are using the toilet on a daily basis, then a container will last about 3-6 weeks, depending on how much toilet paper is being used. For a normal summerhouse, 2-3 containers will suffice. The Separett Villa comes with three containers. Additional containers can be purchased if required.
How is it possible that the container with solids so rarely has to be emptied?
Urine accounts for about 85% of the waste volume and is routed separately away from the toilet. This increases the storage capacity for solids greatly. The container is easily replaceable and if the amount of users increases one only change containers more often. The Separett Villa comes with three containers. Additional containers can be purchased if required giving the toilet virtually unlimited capacity.

Are there unpleasant odors indoors?
No. If the fan runs continuously the there will be no unpleasant odors in the room. When installing the toilet, make sure that the venting pipe is properly sealed with silicone. The easily accessible fan filter should be cleaned regularly as well as the insect net at the end of ventilation pipe. "

It's actually why I picked this particular one. So with my 8 people I should need to empty it every 1.2-3 weeks. Totally worth not dealing with a black water tank. The reviews I've found seem to hold up the claim. If anyone has any personal experience though I would love to hear some.
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Old 07-02-2014, 06:26 PM   #38
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Re: Family Tardis

We don't have experience yet, but we are looking at nature's head. There is only me and the wife, so the recommended dumping is 6-8 weeks. I also like the idea of not having a black tank. I do have a black water tank (I have a whole donor camper), so I hope to use it and the gray water tank as one big gray water tank. You know connect them or something. Gone with the wynns have a youtube FAQ on the toilet that is very informative. They also have some info on coupling the tanks, since they don't use the black water tank. Good luck.
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Old 07-02-2014, 08:00 PM   #39
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200 gallons is 1700 pounds (8.5 # per gallon). As long as it is positioned properly and well secured, it should be fine. Just be careful to distribute all the major weight items so as to achieve something close to overall balance. And, 1700 pounds is only the equivalent of 6.8 passengers and yours looks like a 72. Last time I checked, they factor 250 pounds per passenger, even for school kids. Course THESE days, that number might not be all that far off from reality.

Just wish I had room for more of the precious stuff somewhere on/in/under my shorty. Good thing I have experience taking "Navy Showers".
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Old 09-22-2014, 04:44 PM   #40
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You got me hooked when I read about the hammocks. The wife and I are some of those weird people that don't own beds; only hammocks. Outside of hotels, I haven't slept on a torture rack (bed) since 2007.

I would avoid the walls and go from the roof instead. All you really need is a cross-brace to keep the compression in check. Off the top of my head, and knowing little to nothing about school bus construction, I'd be tempted to take some angle iron and attach it to the roof. You could attach your mounts to the ends of the angle iron and hang peacefully knowing you aren't pulling inward on the walls. Personally, I'd mount the bar to the outside and put my attachment hardware through the roof. Another point of failure for keeping the water out, but that can be addressed with elbow grease. The mounts would be rock solid and the weight of the hammock occupant would be spread across the length of the angle iron. The compressive forces would easily be accomdated by the angle iron. In fact, I'd probably just do a roof rack for luggage that also provided hammock mounts within.

Course, I know a ton about hammocks and almost nothing (yet) about school buses. So, there's that.
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