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Old 05-07-2012, 09:13 AM   #41
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Re: Fear Fair Prison Party Bus

probably rides better than a hummer... esp the old ones...
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:23 AM   #42
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probably rides better than a hummer... esp the old ones...
Pretty close to the same... lol.. I need to find a way to add some weight to the rear end.
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:15 AM   #43
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Re: Fear Fair Prison Party Bus

Ok, I need some advice. I have a pair of Grover 1510 air horns that I want to install this weekend.

The bus is a 1993 Amtran Genesis. It has air operated door and seats, so I am assuming it has a system to prevent these air driven accessories from depleting the air brake system.

Where should I try to tap in for air to the horns? Where should the accessory tank be located. I can follow the air line from the compressor through the dryer to the large tank mounted about half way back to the frame rail which then runs out to the wheels, but so far I am not seeing the accessory tank. Where would this normally be located?

I would like to tie in as close to the accessory tank as I can and then run 1/2" line up to the horns. I am hoping to mount them on the roof for appearance, but I have to figure out how to get the air line up there and hide the solenoid inside the ceiling...
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:30 AM   #44
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Re: Fear Fair Prison Party Bus

the thomas busses have air drain valves located on the passenger side behind the front wheel. a small door opens and drain valves are labled. maybe yours are labled as well. there are 4 drain valves for my tanks... accessory tank is probably located near the front of the bus. it doesnt matter much how long your hose run is to the air horn.
another thing to do is to put a air quick coupler at the tank end, so you can use your bus air for tire changes, painting and the like.
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Old 05-10-2012, 02:22 PM   #45
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Re: Fear Fair Prison Party Bus

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the thomas busses have air drain valves located on the passenger side behind the front wheel. a small door opens and drain valves are labled. maybe yours are labled as well. there are 4 drain valves for my tanks... accessory tank is probably located near the front of the bus. it doesnt matter much how long your hose run is to the air horn.
another thing to do is to put a air quick coupler at the tank end, so you can use your bus air for tire changes, painting and the like.
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Old 05-10-2012, 02:41 PM   #46
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I just wanted to be sure I tied into the accessory side of the system rather than the brake side.
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Old 05-14-2012, 09:53 AM   #47
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Re: Fear Fair Prison Party Bus

Got the horns installed over the weekend and they work great. Turns out the reason I couldn't find the accessory tank is that it is combined with the primary tank about halfway back on the frame rail. The tank has three petcocks on the bottom spaced evenly. Apparently the tank has two chambers, 2/3 of the tank is for the brakes and the other 1/3 is accessory. Once there is 85psi in the main section, the accessory section fills.. I just unscrewed the blowoff valve from a 1/2 port on top of the tank and used a 1/2" pipe tee to put the blowoff valve back and install a push fit connector for air line running to the horns.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:11 AM   #48
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The heat and noise on our first real road trip was horrible, so I decided it was time to tackle this project.



First I cleared out all of the rotten insulation, weather strip, etc. down to just the bare cover

First layer in was Dynamat...


On top of the Dynamat I put back the factory inner rubber line... this is about an 1/8" thick layer of soft rubber... it was in decent shape so I put it back in.


On top of the rubber liner I glued in foil covered bubble wrap type duct insulation... this should hold in heat as well as sound.


The final layer on the inside of the cover is a foam covered heat/sound deadening carpet.. about 1/2" thick.. then I sealed all the seams with foil tape.. around 2" of total material on the inside of the cover now


Finally, I did the outside of the cover with Herculiner bed liner.. I thought it would look good as well as provide a little more sound deadening. I still have to install the new pinch molding strips and replace two of the latches that were broken. Hopefully all of this will make a difference... we shall see.

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Re: Fear Fair Prison Party Bus

Looks great! Surely it will help. I need to do something similar with mine. How well does it seal to the floor? I've noticed that I can feel hot air blowing on my ankles that is coming from the bottom where it meets the floor. I plan to put down some sort of weather stripping to seal this gap.
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yes please post the results
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