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Old 05-26-2019, 06:39 PM   #1
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Florida-Spec Bus

In general, does anyone have any feedback on buses from Florida?
(Not just sold in Florida, but used in Florida.)

I stumbled upon a Florida shorty that looks. . .interesting.




2004 IC

DT4666 - Good

Air brakes - Good

Air Ride - Really good!

No Rust - Really good!

228,000 miles - Meh
I think it has air conditioning - Good
Transmission - Unk? - BAD


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4DRBRAAL04A971556

At a glance, it looks good - rust-free, with decent specs.



I do remember some discussion on here about IC quality taking a bit of a dive around 2004 - so I'm wondering if that could be an issue with the engine on this one.

I'm also not sure what the headroom is - I'd really like the high headroom, especially to have some room to insulate the floor.

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Old 05-26-2019, 07:08 PM   #2
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Looks like Charlies jacked up shorty. Tell us more about it, drive train, etc.
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Old 05-26-2019, 07:28 PM   #3
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This would give me pause: "Transmission - Unk? - BAD
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Old 05-26-2019, 07:35 PM   #4
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This would give me pause: "Transmission - Unk? - BAD
Unknown, no, we know it has a 545. Now BAD, that means it's ready for a 3060 swap. Negotiate accordingly.

I think we read that wrong Steve. He is commenting on things. Doesn't say it is bad, he is saying it's bad he doesn't know. Has AC, isn't saying the AC is good, saying it's good to him that it has it. Just saw it has a DT466, so just maybe not a 545. That bus with a 3060 would be a rocketship. No bump in roof, so probably 6'3". If my International is any guide they can lose quality and still be better than any other bus I've seen. Your 2004 DT may or may not have all the emission stuff added yet.
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This would give me pause: "Transmission - Unk? - BAD

Yeah, I was implying that it's bad that I don't know what the transmission is - the listing doesn't say, and the VIN check I could do didn't say what it was either. (I was hoping it might have the rear-end gearing as well.) It does list the school district, so I might be able to call and ask. (Might be worth it to see if they'll have anything going to auction too. . . )

At this point, I'd almost be okay with a 545, since I don't have any direct plans to tow with it (yet), and this is about the 4th shorty I've found anywhere, in any condition, in the past few months.


Found more pictures.
This is a 545 shifter, isn't it?





They didn't skimp on the air conditioning either. . .

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Old 05-26-2019, 08:12 PM   #6
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Yeah, I was implying that it's bad that I don't know what the transmission is - the listing doesn't say, and the VIN check I could do didn't say what it was either. (I was hoping it might have the rear-end gearing as well.) It does list the school district, so I might be able to call and ask. (Might be worth it to see if they'll have anything going to auction too. . . )

At this point, I'd almost be okay with a 545, since I don't have any direct plans to tow with it (yet), and this is about the 4th shorty I've found anywhere, in any condition, in the past few months.


Found more pictures.
This is a 545 shifter, isn't it?





They didn't skimp on the air conditioning either. . .

Ok... I took it to mean that the transmission was bad.

Regarding that shifter. I am not sure but I think that is a 2000 series shifter. That would be GOOD.
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As Charlie says, most of the Fla. buses are really low spec buses, surprised that one has a DT in it. Yep, that's a 545 shifter.
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I am pretty sure that is not a 545 shifter - more likely the Allison 2000.
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This a 545 shifter
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