Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 07-29-2012, 11:42 PM   #101
Bus Nut
 
bus-bro's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Whidbey Island, WA.
Posts: 680
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 3208 na boat anchor
Rated Cap: 2
Re: Fran (Sinclair) skoolie

Now you tell me.:/
bus-bro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2012, 05:09 PM   #102
Bus Nut
 
GreyEagle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 801
Re: Fran (Sinclair) skoolie

You could throw in some yeller and make her a Oregon Duck bus....... Green & Yellow.lol
__________________
GreyEagle
Roll - On...
GreyEagle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2012, 11:49 AM   #103
Bus Nut
 
Seeria's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Idaho
Posts: 575
Coachwork: Thomas
Re: Fran (Sinclair) skoolie

Wisconsin DMV won't allow yellow on converted school buses. *shrug*

What color of green did you use? Ours is a dark green, Rustoleum with nearly 2 pints of black added. The rustoleum silver shouldn't be used for wide coverage btw as the bugger separates in seconds, even with electric shaker. Looks weird and bad on large areas. Definitely a detail thing.
Seeria is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2012, 05:49 PM   #104
Bus Crazy
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Oregon/Philippines
Posts: 1,660
Re: Fran (Sinclair) skoolie

Quote:
Originally Posted by GreyEagle
You could throw in some yeller and make her a Oregon Duck bus....... Green & Yellow.lol

reminds me i gotta screw on the ducks sign i bought on the back....
__________________
Jesus Christ... Conversion in progress.
chev49 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2013, 10:44 AM   #105
Bus Nut
 
Seeria's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Idaho
Posts: 575
Coachwork: Thomas
Re: Fran (Sinclair) skoolie

Lessons learned from nearly two years in this skoolie.

Don't under estimate the need for insulation and vapor barriers on the walls.
Bus has had no problems with the ceiling, which we left factory style. The walls got barely half inch of padding on top of the factory, with a vapor barrier. The walls are COLD. This might be due to the factory windows. However, the deal is the condensation drip factors we can't see. Had the chance to pull a wall board to check a spot for a new electrical outlet and eeww. Yeah. Damp. Mold. Nasty.

Kids have developed sinus problems. Could be we're in the Northwest but I doubt that is the whole of the problem.

Insulate. Prepare for condensation. Our wintering experience generally has us above freezing and on electrical heat, rarely propane furnace. Days in the 40-50s, nights usually 40s. Condensation isn't a problem in 50plus that I've noticed.

Oh and the ONE area on the floor that has no insulation is under the floor heater in the back of the bus. It has to be cleaned weekly due to the HUGE white and black mold growth that happens there. Defintely don't skip spots.

Yes, I do think 21' interior space is enough for four adults (okay, teens but one turns 18 this year). I get asked this a lot on the road. The key is to make each their own living space and always allow space for everyone to lay down without having to pull out, make up beds. Give storage, easily accessible for personal items. And spend a lot of time out doors. We also have two cats now and they love exploring.

Defintely our last year in this bugger. Still working on finding other RVing, and even renting a house for next year or two get it done. Was going to buy land but all land deals we find fall through. Doh. So working on getting either a shuttle this year to convert or traditional RV (*scream bloody murder*).

There is never enough storage space. And I'm not a packrat! Think storage inside and out. Or tow a utility trailer ;)

OR state parks don't care for unusual vehicles as volunteers exposed to the public. That was our experience after months of volunteering. Oh well, we didn't find their lack of organization to be worth giving our time.

Dog-nosed school buses, especially painted green attract a LOT of police attention. We even had a diner tell us not to park near them, people think they serve inmates. O.O But we were dining there! Geeze. Yeah, bus is painted totally silver now. or will be once I finish a couple more spots.

Factory windows are nice but if I there had been time way back when I would have splurged to get better insulated, RV style windows put in. More work, more money, less condensation problems and less of the 'school bus' look. Which really draws more attention than I care to have.

TV mounts on the ceiling might not be as secure as you think. O.O

A freezer 5cu size is GREAT. Wouldn't ever go without in any type setup. And with a thermastat control thingy (see this board for more on that) you can use it as a fridge when need be.

Clothing and linens must be aired and rotated weekly. In a house I did this once a month. Here, they get nasty smelling fast if not rotated. Also, never put clothing items near a wall. They get wet, fast. Same for electronics.

Not having a toad is a bitch and I won't do it again. Love to drive Fran but unhooking everytime I want to go somewhere is a pain and some places I want to go are National Forest owned, which means big things like this won't fit. Get a tow setup!!!

Think that's all for now.
Seeria is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2013, 12:59 PM   #106
Bus Geek
 
lornaschinske's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Roswell, NM
Posts: 3,587
Year: 1986
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: 40 ft All American FE
Engine: 8.2LTA Fuel Pincher DD V8
Rated Cap: 89
Re: Fran (Sinclair) skoolie

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seeria
... Don't under estimate the need for insulation and vapor barriers on the walls.
Bus has had no problems with the ceiling, which we left factory style. The walls got barely half inch of padding on top of the factory, with a vapor barrier. The walls are COLD. This might be due to the factory windows. However, the deal is the condensation drip factors we can't see. Had the chance to pull a wall board to check a spot for a new electrical outlet and eeww. Yeah. Damp. Mold. Nasty.
Bear in mind that we live in a very dry NM desert. We have been in our bus for a little over a year. Until recently, the only insulation we had was the factory stuff. We have not ha any moisture/mold problems. We only have 1" radiant barrier foam sheathing on the wall with laminate flooring over that. We kept the factory windows as well. No drips, even after I take a steaming hot shower. We welcome what little humidity we generate. That is liable to change when we finally move back east to a high humidity area. At that point we plan on buying a small dehumidifier.

Based on what I have read on RV forums, you have three choices:
#1. Change location to a drier area.
#2. Buy several tubs of that DampRid type stuff
#3. Dehumidifier (either house type or marine type) and run the drain either outside or into the waste drains.

Quote:
Insulate. Prepare for condensation... Definitely don't skip spots.
Can't stress the need for both INSULATION and THERMAL BREAKS enough.

Quote:
There is never enough storage space.
No there's not. It is a constant battle. Every few months you need to go thru clothing and toss part, go thru books & magazines and toss part, pantry and toss. You are always fighting the accumulation. Doesn't matter what size you are in. Your stuff will expand to fill any and all existing space and then overflow that space searching for more space to fill. We've been in the bus right at a year and I have gone thru the clothes several times. We keep a specific amount of clothes. When it creeps up by one or two items, something gets tossed. Also when we rotate our clothes for the seasonal change, we pack up only the decent stuff and trash the damaged or items that need to be ironed. We keep one set of "dirty job" clothes. Since we shop at thrift stores (currently the local Goodwill store) for clothing, we can replace clothes cheaply and often for less that we could at Wal-Mart.

Quote:
OR state parks don't care for unusual vehicles as volunteers exposed to the public. That was our experience after months of volunteering.
Not just OR parks. We aren't interested in volunteering. We still need money to live on.

Quote:
Factory windows are nice but if I there had been time way back when I would have splurged to get better insulated, RV style windows put in. More work, more money, less condensation problems and less of the 'school bus' look. Which really draws more attention than I care to have.
We has so few of the factory windows (9 in 40 ft... not counting the 1/2 window in the shower) that I don't think it is that noticeable. I like that I can open the windows a bit when it rains. We will be making a plexiglass interior "storm window" for winter use before next winter rolls around.

Quote:
TV mounts on the ceiling might not be as secure as you think.
And that is why we mounted the living room TV in the top section of the fireplace mantle (on plywood) where the old mirror was. The rear TV (when we get one) will be installed on a removable wall (removable so we can get appliances in/out)

Quote:
A freezer 5cu size is GREAT.
A 12 cf upright freezer is fantastic!

Quote:
Clothing and linens must be aired and rotated weekly... Also, never put clothing items near a wall. They get wet, fast. Same for electronics.
We have not had that problem. Clothes have been hanging up against the original factory insulated wall with no problems. I keep several extra quilts and seasonal clothes in my cedar chest. I have 6 drawers (2 plastic stacks) that Ive been using to hold "foldable" clothes in until we get a closet built. I think the desert dryness has a great deal to do with this but I also didn't have a moisture problem in the Class C in high humidity GA, NC, TN when we fulltimed in the Class C (Fall 2006 until we left NC in Summer 2009).

Quote:
Not having a toad is a bitch... Get a tow setup!!!
Most definitely! Either a towed or small scooter. While we have the Jeep, we would like to pick up a small 250cc touring scooter. This would give David transportation while I'm at work with the Jeep. Plus we could both ride on it to make sightseeing trips. The Jeep is not very cheap on gas.


This is not our first time full-timing. After decades of "extended" camping trips, fulltiming in the pop-up and fulltiming in the Class C we applied what we had learned to the bus.


As for land.... we are thinking of picking up an unimproved lot here to satisfy any gov officials. All we need is an "RV space" to park on and a brush cutter/weedeater with a carbide tipped blade. I've cleared plenty of land like that... along with the Jeep as a tractor for pulling downed trees & stumps. I hope to find a similar place in what ever state we end up moving to. Then we will either sell the Livingston lot (hopefully for a profit) or hang onto it and just pay the yearly HOA dues and land taxes, both of which are pretty low in case we end up moving to "no income tax" TX. I get tired of paying out-of-state tax rates (usually double of resident rates). David says he can't handle TN (no state income tax) winters anymore.
__________________
This post is my opinion. It is not intended to influence anyone's judgment nor do I advocate anyone do what I propose.
Fulltime since 2006
The goal of life is living in agreement with nature. Zeno (335BC-264BC)
http://lorndavi.wordpress.com/blog/
http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps0340a6ff.jpg
lornaschinske is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2013, 11:40 AM   #107
Bus Nut
 
Seeria's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Idaho
Posts: 575
Coachwork: Thomas
Re: Fran (Sinclair) skoolie

Thanks for the dry weather input. Maybe after the next bus is built I can get these guys to hit the dry lands That 12cuf freezer of yours needs to be moved into my bus. Come on, you know you wanna donate it
Seeria is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2013, 12:34 PM   #108
Bus Nut
 
bus-bro's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Whidbey Island, WA.
Posts: 680
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 3208 na boat anchor
Rated Cap: 2
Re: Fran (Sinclair) skoolie

Quote:
Originally Posted by lornaschinske
I've cleared plenty of land like that... along with the Jeep as a tractor for pulling downed trees & stumps.
A school bus also works well at pulling stumps. I'll do futile tugging with my small tractor, until I remember I've got a bus. A stout chain and a short run, and plop.
bus-bro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2013, 09:42 PM   #109
Bus Geek
 
lornaschinske's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Roswell, NM
Posts: 3,587
Year: 1986
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: 40 ft All American FE
Engine: 8.2LTA Fuel Pincher DD V8
Rated Cap: 89
Re: Fran (Sinclair) skoolie

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seeria
...That 12cuf freezer of yours needs to be moved into my bus. Come on, you know you wanna donate it
That freezer was Stacey's first "major appliance purchase". She was so upset that she couldn't put it into the class C. But she does have the 4.4 cf freezer in the Class C and it holds plenty of food for her. The 12 CF stayed mostly empty. It's really too big for a single.She wanted us to just "baby sit"it at first until she could come up with the $$ to buy her own skoolie. She has since realized that it will take her longer to save up the money plus we will help her buy a new freezer, if she needs one, in her own "new-to-her" skoolie. The poor economy is really beating her up. I know the government says the economy is doing so much better but, like us, she is still dealing with her own private recession.


I LOVE HAVING A BIG FREEZER!!!!! The 12 cf will easily hold 6 to 8 weeks of frozen food.
__________________
This post is my opinion. It is not intended to influence anyone's judgment nor do I advocate anyone do what I propose.
Fulltime since 2006
The goal of life is living in agreement with nature. Zeno (335BC-264BC)
http://lorndavi.wordpress.com/blog/
http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps0340a6ff.jpg
lornaschinske is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2013, 09:55 AM   #110
Bus Nut
 
Seeria's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Idaho
Posts: 575
Coachwork: Thomas
Re: Fran (Sinclair) skoolie

Despite my own words I went ahead and painted the entire bus in Rusto's aluminium paint. Thing with it is the reflection shows every little detail. So yeah, it doesn't look at smooth and pro as the thinned green paint did but from the road it looks like an Airstream gone bus-wild! Can't believe how many people ask us if it is.

Photo found here (also shows the old custom green)
here, whichever works

the top of the hood is done in a matte grey to match the silver. Found it too shiny to drive with. The details have been done over in Rusto's black and looks MUCH better than the custom green details we left on originally.

The top is painted in the silver as well. We had that iso rubber coating on top but it looked weird with the silver so painted whole thing. MUCH better looking in our opinion.

We also redid some of the interior. Ripped out the old single bed in the back and put in a queen size high bed which allowed us to store tanks, tools, etc with an easy crawl space and the center of the bed designed much like the front bed, laid across support boards so I can remove it if need arises. Redid the kitchen stand and stove area to make more storage and stick with the rustic farm design look I love so much. LOVE the new counter space. Can bake, make any food, knead bread, etc with plenty of space. Lovin' it!

Next is the front bed shelves, should be done this week with those.

We are still planning on moving into another RV eventually, but as plans are delayed we figured we'd make this one more comfortable for the weight. Now if I can just figure how to expand the space for a 12cft freezer!

We are having trouble getting the plug out for this years oil change. grrr We had a full tune up deal last year and the guys machine tightened it so we can't do the oil ourselves. A plot I'm sure. Any ideas how to loosen that thing?
Seeria is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New Skoolie Conversion and Old Skoolie Remodel jlhollowx13 Skoolie Conversion Projects 0 01-22-2013 02:41 PM
Sinclair Seeria Skoolie Conversion Projects 35 03-15-2011 01:54 PM

» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:44 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.