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Old 09-29-2014, 02:27 AM   #41
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Re: Gilligus Maxibus

Thanks! I think we have concluded that we need to replace the windows.

I saw the post of the vintage bus and truck that used shed windows and we have been looking into that.

Does anyone see any reason that shed windows like the ones at the following links, could not be installed on a bus? They have aluminum frames (not sure if they are painted, anodized, or powder coated)

http://www.shed-windows.com/Shed-Window ... gular.html

http://shed-parts.com/all-shed-parts/sh ... n-windows/
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Old 09-29-2014, 06:31 AM   #42
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Re: Gilligus Maxibus

Gill,

As a rule of thumb, shed windows do not have any insulation value. If insulation is a high priority, and finances are tight, look to your surplus home supply dealer, such as Habitat for Humanity, to get better windows. Almost all of the storage windows I have seen are no more than thin glass surrounded by thin aluminum brackets - not the safest thing for an RV, especially going down the interstate. When I get my daily driver I'm planning on getting tinted RV windows that will offer decent insulation value and hold up with wind whipping around them doing 65 or so on the interstate. I'm not rich, so I'll have to wait for the $$$ before buying them. Trust me, it's worth the wait... Just my 2 cents.........
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Old 09-29-2014, 09:16 AM   #43
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Shed windows are usually not tempered. Otherwise, they are about the same as a "normal" bus windows--rattle, loud, leaky, etc.

Those windows in particular look like storm windows you can buy for a house--they make sense for a shed but not for a bus. Their frames are so weak you will lose a window the first big bump or flex.

Look elsewhere.

You can find decent RV windows for a good price on ebay or the RV surplus places if you are a little flexible on size.
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Old 09-29-2014, 01:01 PM   #44
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where are u at,i have a few rv window I will give to any one,,they where taken out of an rv and are it good shape but drity,,,so I live in north GA and they are freeeeeeeeeeeee... think there about 6 or 7 window all size's,,,,,,,,, just pm me for a phone n#
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Old 09-30-2014, 12:43 AM   #45
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Thanks, Keith, but we are in Oregon. Let me check into RV surplus businesses and eBay. I haven't looked into either of those. We did find a company in Vancouver, WA that will make custom sliding windows the same size as our openings, but they want $359.00 per window! We need 13 of them, so that is not really an option, at this point. We hoped to be on the road by December 1st, but with changing out the windows, it's looking more like Spring. So, waiting for an extra $4,500.00 to show up is not an option.

I'm pretty sure we can find some salvage ones from an old RV in the area. We were just trying to stay within the the shape of the current openings without having to modify much. We would rather spend more of our fabricating and modifying time under the bus!
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Old 10-03-2014, 08:41 PM   #46
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Gill and r-w, a point of clarification is in order here. I used "shed" windows available at Home Depot by special order. They have 1/8" thick dual pane tempered glass, desiccant filed spacers, "e" glass coating to reflect UV, full weather seals and window screens. They are made of aluminum with a white powder coating and meet the same standards as regular residential windows except that because they are sold as shed windows they aren't required to be certified--which means they are very cost effective. The ones that HD sells are made by Jeld Wen and are designated as S-110 Shed Windows. They may be purchased in either fined or non fined as well as for over (or under) 6,000 ft elevation (has to do with blow out problems all dual glaze windows have) or they can be ordered with the space between the panes vented if they will be subject to rapid variation in elevation. The venting will eventually cause moisture to collect between the panes. To repeat a point, most residential dual pane windows are made with thinner 3/32" panes but the shed windows can be ordered with 1/8" thick glass. As to the elevation changes, using the 1/8" glass greatly increases the strength of the window especially in our relatively small school bus windows. I live at sea level so I chose the below 6,000' variety but have now had the bus up to the 9,000' mark with no issues. The complete HD shed windows I bought were $87.50 each. The aluminum frame will, of course, transmit hot and cold but that problem can easily be mitigated with judicious use of insulation just as it can be with any traditional r/v window. Jack
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Old 10-06-2014, 01:39 AM   #47
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Jack,

Thank you so much for the clarification! Did you have to cut out larger holes to put the windows in, or did they fit into the original openings? Either way, that looks like the way we will go. You can't beat $87.50 per window!

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Old 10-06-2014, 11:59 AM   #48
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GM, When you order these windows, you provide the measurements and they build to your measurements. I measured the existing openings in my bus and then deducted 1/8"in height and width to allow a little wiggle room. I used the windows without the fins (block wall style) and fastened them in with a couple of stainless sheet metal screws followed by a bead of Silkaflex 220+ windshield glue to further secure and waterproof them. Hope this helps. Jack
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Old 10-06-2014, 09:30 PM   #49
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Thanks, Jack. We checked with the manager of the window department, today and were told that the S 110 series are no longer available to order. Not sure what to think. How long ago did you order yours? We're checking with another contact at another store tomorrow.

Has anyone ever used vinyl windows on their skoolie?
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GM, I'll check with the HD I used earlier this year. I don't think the plastic jobies would be very good.. In particular, they would be hard to seal to the bus body. Lots of sealers seem to stick to plastic at first but shortly loose their bond. While the words "never" and "always" seem to get me into trouble, I always do a test of materials such as sealers and glue and sticky tape on the surfaces I plan to anoint and so far I haven't found a material that will bond to vinyl window plastic for more than a short period of time. Perhaps others have had better luck-----Jack
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