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Old 07-07-2011, 04:25 PM   #51
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I've used metal studs in construction a few times.. they are definitely lighter, but it also doesn't take very much to bend one. They get their real strength from a drywall board, or some kind of backing attached to them. They're basically in a U shape so it doesn't take much to bend the edges on either side.
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Old 07-07-2011, 04:38 PM   #52
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If you get a bus with the handicap Lift and big doors it might work for your garage ....... just thinking out loud
The problem with the large buses with the lift is they are in the middle of the bus. I wanted to put the "garage" at the very back of the bus. In a short bus they are in the rear (side).
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Old 07-07-2011, 04:50 PM   #53
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I've used metal studs in construction a few times.. they are definitely lighter, but it also doesn't take very much to bend one. They get their real strength from a drywall board, or some kind of backing attached to them. They're basically in a U shape so it doesn't take much to bend the edges on either side.
What is the standard "wall" material used in buses? Plywood? Paneling? Curtains? lol. I want to make the outer wall and roof dense to stop as much as logically possible) the noise. I want to make the inner walls sturdy but not heavy. I would like to insulate the garage to save some energy while driving and parked and to have that area breathable due to the engine and Bike.
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Old 07-07-2011, 04:53 PM   #54
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100MPG....... just thinking out loud
I forgot to tell you I HEARD THAT! That is so weird...
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Old 07-07-2011, 07:12 PM   #55
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Beautiful work on the windows and framing!
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I've used metal studs in construction a few times.. they are definitely lighter, but it also doesn't take very much to bend one. They get their real strength from a drywall board, or some kind of backing attached to them. They're basically in a U shape so it doesn't take much to bend the edges on either side.
What is the standard "wall" material used in buses? Plywood? Paneling? Curtains? lol. I want to make the outer wall and roof dense to stop as much as logically possible) the noise. I want to make the inner walls sturdy but not heavy. I would like to insulate the garage to save some energy while driving and parked and to have that area breathable due to the engine and Bike.
I'm going to use a combination of OSB and Plywood. No drywall. My guess is it would crack to **** in no time.
kshamrock12 brought up a good point..... the studs are quite flimsy without backing/sheer. I am using 20 ga metal which is pretty standard in construction.
I fully intend to sheet over every single piece of metal framing. Most of it will be for strength but some will just be cosmetic.
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Gorgeous bus, and nice work!

Did you guys rivet between the rivets that you ground down? Just wondering as this is what we're planning on doing in some areas of our bus.

Looking forward to seeing more of your Bluebird.

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Most of the rivets that we ground off were becuase they were in the way of the window skinning metal (between each eyebrow). The window skinning metal attachment acted like the rivet that was removed. I also plan to tack weld the bus material to the window skins between the eyebrows.
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I'm going to use a combination of OSB and Plywood. No drywall. My guess is it would crack to **** in no time.
kshamrock12 brought up a good point..... the studs are quite flimsy without backing/sheer. I am using 20 ga metal which is pretty standard in construction.
I fully intend to sheet over every single piece of metal framing. Most of it will be for strength but some will just be cosmetic.
20 gauge metal studs? where you will be using plywood, what will you use? 1/4 3/8? Less? Do they have 1/8 or is that called paneling...?
When I repaired the front of a 30' GulfStream I bought one sheet of fiberglass. Very very thin, maybe 1/16 but it was light and strong. If there was a beer way to secure it to metal studs it would be the best material for the inside walls. But screws won't work, it would just split.
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I'm going to use a combination of OSB and Plywood. No drywall. My guess is it would crack to **** in no time.
kshamrock12 brought up a good point..... the studs are quite flimsy without backing/sheer. I am using 20 ga metal which is pretty standard in construction.
I fully intend to sheet over every single piece of metal framing. Most of it will be for strength but some will just be cosmetic.
20 gauge metal studs? where you will be using plywood, what will you use? 1/4 3/8? Less? Do they have 1/8 or is that called paneling...?
When I repaired the front of a 30' GulfStream I bought one sheet of fiberglass. Very very thin, maybe 1/16 but it was light and strong. If there was a beer way to secure it to metal studs it would be the best material for the inside walls. But screws won't work, it would just split.
Yes 20 ga studs/track. I have not decided 100% on what/where/how in regards to the plywood but I'm thinking 1/4 will be the thinnest I will use and most likely 3/4 on the important structural items like the rear bed and the couch. For the bathroom walls and closet I might do 1/4 on both sides.
I really have not thought it out to much yet. Too many other things to think about and research.... remember I'm not a framer or carpenter; I'm just making half this **** up as I go.
FYI, the studs are not 2x4, I am using 2-1/4 x 1-1/2 for the framing and 1-5/8 x 1-1/2 for the wall cabinet framing which has not started yet.
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Yes 20 ga studs/track. I have not decided 100% on what/where/how in regards to the plywood but I'm thinking 1/4 will be the thinnest I will use and most likely 3/4 on the important structural items like the rear bed and the couch. For the bathroom walls and closet I might do 1/4 on both sides.
Do they make a diagonal or brace to put between the metal studs for strength? That would really stiffen them up and allow a thinner covering material for the inside walls. And I mean inner walls, not the inside of the outer wall. I would use something thicker for the sound deadening properties.
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I really have not thought it out to much yet. Too many other things to think about and research.... remember I'm not a framer or carpenter; I'm just making half this **** up as I go.
Gotcha. I was a carpenter and mess around from time to time but given enough time, I could do anything.
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FYI, the studs are not 2x4, I am using 2-1/4 x 1-1/2 for the framing and 1-5/8 x 1-1/2 for the wall cabinet framing which has not started yet.
I will be happy to have a bus to sit in and stare at the walls. I can start the planing in my head, it is easier for me to picture it and see how it fits together then looking at a piece of paper.
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