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Old 05-22-2015, 09:43 PM   #1
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Hazard lights

My school bus doesn't have any and I'd like to make the following changes to the lights...
1 swop the lenses around for the reds and ambers at the top.
2 replace the front reds with clear domes.
3 wire the ambers front and back to work in combination with turn signals so I have high and low level turn signals - for added safety.
4 wire the rear reds to work with the brake lights for added safety.
5 wire the front reds - fitted with clear domes as a floodlight on a separate switch
6 wire all the ambers - top and bottom into a hazard circuit.

Its a complex sounding task. Has anybody done it with a carpenter?
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Old 05-22-2015, 10:50 PM   #2
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My school bus doesn't have any and I'd like to make the following changes to the lights...
1 swop the lenses around for the reds and ambers at the top.
2 replace the front reds with clear domes.
3 wire the ambers front and back to work in combination with turn signals so I have high and low level turn signals - for added safety.
4 wire the rear reds to work with the brake lights for added safety.
5 wire the front reds - fitted with clear domes as a floodlight on a separate switch
6 wire all the ambers - top and bottom into a hazard circuit.

Its a complex sounding task. Has anybody done it with a carpenter?
I have a hard time believing the bus has no hazard flasher function -- it has been required by safety standards since the dawn of time! On the Blue Birds the hazard switch is a small red tab at the top of the steering column, hidden just below the steering wheel. It pushes/pulls away from the center of the column. Maybe the switch is similarly hidden on the Carpenter..? Surely it must have one somewhere.

All the swapping sounds pretty doable. Just do one lamp at a time and you won't have to worry about getting wires mixed up.
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Old 05-22-2015, 10:55 PM   #3
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Thus far I have been unable to find any hazard light noir even a mention of it in the manual
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Wiring in hazard lights aka 4-way flashers is a good thing if you don't have them. In the '60s, before they were standard equipment, you used to be able to go to the auto parts store and get a kit wired onto the back of a big red lighted knob that attached to all the wires. Now you are on your own.

But I posted a list of the lighting rules a couple of years ago. The one I remember because people like to ignore it is that the red and yellow flashing lights are too high above the pavement to be converted to turn signals, and probably brake lights, too.

I would have to do a search, but I think the limit was about 80 inches above the roadway.
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Old 05-23-2015, 10:13 AM   #5
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I'd like to see that, if it's a legitimate source. I have a feeling it could well be like the "photographers rights" document that has been floating around the internet for years. Now that document is total bunk but looks believable so the more gullible believe in it then wonder why they're getting in trouble!
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I think Redbear was referring to this link. That being said, I've been seeing a lot of newer MCI buses with multiple additional brake lights that exceed that 83" 'limit'.
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Old 05-23-2015, 10:34 AM   #7
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I've seen some trucks with high level extra lights too. IMHO there's no such thing as too much safety.
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I think Redbear was referring to this link. That being said, I've been seeing a lot of newer MCI buses with multiple additional brake lights that exceed that 83" 'limit'.
Hmm.... Doesn't apply. That's for vehicles registered in Canada.
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Hmm.... Doesn't apply. That's for vehicles registered in Canada.
Its from the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration. Since the Federal and Canadian Motor Vehicle Safety Standards are identical, its a dual standard, annotated as needed, for both countries. A couple of the image URLs are broken.
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It seems to refer to the first set of lights, not to a duplicate set.
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