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Old 07-10-2014, 10:27 PM   #11
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DT466 is the way to go. Most likely will have the MT643 behind it. Not a guarantee but more likely due to higher horsepower. My Mt643 has a spin on filter on it as well. It would be nice to know if this guy had any parts laying around. I'd like to locate a 4.10 or 3.90'ish differential for my 1995 AMTrans.
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Old 07-11-2014, 06:16 AM   #12
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DT466 is the way to go. Most likely will have the MT643 behind it. Not a guarantee but more likely due to higher horsepower. My Mt643 has a spin on filter on it as well. It would be nice to know if this guy had any parts laying around. I'd like to locate a 4.10 or 3.90'ish differential for my 1995 AMTrans.
sorry, i asked that question. he does not have parts.
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Old 07-11-2014, 07:29 AM   #13
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sorry, i asked that question. he does not have parts.
Thanks for the reply. By the way, which bus are you purchasing? At $1200.00 you can't go too wrong either way. For us, ours is going to be a "residential vehicle" so we went wit as large a one as we culd find. A 1995 40ft. AmTran FE. DT408 and MT643.
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Old 07-11-2014, 01:47 PM   #14
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Where are these buses? That sounds like a great deal.
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Old 07-12-2014, 05:38 AM   #15
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thanks again guys. im bouncing back and forth. i got some graph paper and drew floor plans till i ran out of beer, and comparing the measurements of the 65 and 60 passenger busses, it looks like i can make the 3 foot shorter bus work. and am really shying away from the dt360 because i can only imagine it has been ran with straight water (being topped off regularly because of leaks) and am scared of the potential for cavitation. SO im really leaning toward the dt466. i feel like a yoyo.

the busses are in southwest louisiana. they were retired from school and bought from auction. then they lived on refineries and plants as worker shuttles. now they are dying in tall weeds and look really sad. i bet they will be so happy to get rescued that they will be as loyal as a hound dog. he has about 4-5 that are longer, 12-14 windows, but have the v-8 diesels 7.3, and another 5-6 v-8's that are 10 windows. anyone interested, i will be happy to answer or get answers, or hook you up with him directly. but he is 72 year old coonass, so be prepared!!! lol

anyone want to take the next two days to talk me out of buying the 1994 carpenter 60 passenger bus (dt466 )? give me hell, i will appreciate all input good or bad. i am old, tired and broke and cant afford to do this but once!
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Old 07-12-2014, 09:23 AM   #16
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My only two-cents would be regarding rust. --- I am just West of that area (in Houston) and familiar with what coastal salt air can do to metal. Then there are a host of similar issues brought on if they lived in refinery environments. There is stuff in the air around chemical plants that can be much worse than salt.

All I'm saying is take a really long, hard look all over before you jump on anything from this area. Some are fine but I've seen others that looked OK on top but the frame rails were practically rusted in two. The prices sound great, just make sure you know what you are buying in to.

Best of luck with the hunt.
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Old 07-12-2014, 10:56 AM   #17
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I hear about the possibilities of cavitation issues, but I've yet to hear of anyone actually have an engine fail from it. As long as the coolant is the correct type for the engine, it shouldn't really be a problem. That said, if the one engine was actually using straight water instead of coolant there may be an issue.
Many diesels are prone to cavitation but it's easy to prevent with the proper additive. Basically you mix the supplemental coolant additive (SCA) with the coolant recommended for your engine and do a quick test every 6 months or so. Not a big deal at all.

Here's the additive: http://www.dieselmanor.com/fleetguard/DCA60L.asp

If you go this route get the test strips at the same time. You'll probably want to do a complete coolant flush on your "new" bus anyway.
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Old 07-13-2014, 02:52 AM   #18
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I'd take the 466 over the 360 if you plan on driving it more than once or twice a year. You could always add a porch or something to make up for the length.
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Old 07-13-2014, 10:27 PM   #19
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I hear about the possibilities of cavitation issues, but I've yet to hear of anyone actually have an engine fail from it. As long as the coolant is the correct type for the engine, it shouldn't really be a problem. That said, if the one engine was actually using straight water instead of coolant there may be an issue.
Many diesels are prone to cavitation but it's easy to prevent with the proper additive. Basically you mix the supplemental coolant additive (SCA) with the coolant recommended for your engine and do a quick test every 6 months or so. Not a big deal at all.

Here's the additive: http://www.dieselmanor.com/fleetguard/DCA60L.asp

If you go this route get the test strips at the same time. You'll probably want to do a complete coolant flush on your "new" bus anyway.
Also, if you're lucky enough to have an engine that accepts coolant filters you probably don't have to worry about adding additional SCA. The filters usually have the additive in a slow-release form inside.
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Also, if you're lucky enough to have an engine that accepts coolant filters you probably don't have to worry about adding additional SCA. The filters usually have the additive in a slow-release form inside.
He'll still have to test to see what filter he uses regarding levels of additive....or none.
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