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Old 09-30-2014, 11:55 AM   #21
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Re: Margarit The Bus

Okay, just want to be clear, because I am sort of confused . What you are saying is that I should put the ceiling panels back in and then cut through it all? to give it structure?

Let me know if this is what you meant, or perhaps a clearer idea of what you suggest.

Thank you so much for the help and the information on making sure the bus is flat! I would not have known that!
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Old 12-04-2014, 04:23 PM   #22
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Hey All!!

Had a big break on the bus since I've been in school, but now I am working with a welder to mount the camper shell to the top. He is rocking it out and expects to be done in the next few weeks. He is building a box out of steel, then rivetting the camper to it, then the whole thing to the bus, then cutting out the inside ceiling panel. This will help with the structure so it doesn't wobble or bend.

I am also going to be doing a pop up for above the shower soon, still in confusion and getting that all sorted. Gotta get my dad on board to help build that part. All around, we woke up this morning going...HOLY ****! THIS PROJECT IS HUGE!!

So i am going to be on winter break coming up soon from school and will have much more time to spend on Margarit. We have decided we will put the insulation in after these two projects, (going to use wool insulation) then will put the metal cieling back in, and screw wood to the cieling after that for a nice wooden interior look.

I got inspired last night by this bus and decided we are going for something like this.

http://teenytinyliving.blogspot.com/201 ... n-bus.html
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Old 12-04-2014, 09:23 PM   #23
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO rock wool!!!! it adsorbs water (not absorbs) and leads to rust and mold. Further, since rock wool requires not being compacted in place, its R value is minimal unless it is like 6" thick. Do without a frig and toilet but don't cheap out on insulation. My two cents worth. Jack
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Old 12-05-2014, 04:00 PM   #24
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Hey! I'm not using rock wool, I am actually using something like this below. This is pretty different than rockwool insulation. Anyone know about/use any wool insulation like this below?

http://www.oregonshepherd.com/
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Old 12-05-2014, 07:06 PM   #25
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I'd stay away from anything capable of holding moisture inside the walls --- the skin will "sweat" with normal daily temperature swings and if the condensation has anything at all to go into...it tends to stay and build up...and mold...and mildew...and rust. Closed cell foam or any such non-hydraulic material is your best bet.
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Old 12-06-2014, 07:22 AM   #26
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Hey! I'm not using rock wool, I am actually using something like this below. This is pretty different than rockwool insulation. Anyone know about/use any wool insulation like this below?

http://www.oregonshepherd.com/
you may wanna talk to a few sheep.
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Old 12-06-2014, 05:09 PM   #27
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Frankly, after reading the poop sheet on the product, I'm not all that impressed. For example, what IS the R value they allude to? What is done to the fur to get the lanolin out. In the day, I did some sheep shearing and I'd have to say that the aroma of damp sheep fur is almost as bad as the smell of wet third graders They show the product being used in the nice dry cavity between the walls in typical stick and brick construction. Perhaps it works well in that application. The metal walls of an old school bus are not, try as we may, going to be dry. Also, unless provision is made to poison the dermestid beatles that will find their way into the wool, the wool will be eaten entirely. Just ask any museum keeper what their number one pest is in their collection of animal pelts. While the sheep is OK with being wet etc., its fir is constantly being replaced so it has no worries about dirt, bugs, mold and mildew. Your bus on the other hand will collect dirt and moisture and bugs -- its just the nature of the beast--and sooner or later you will have a bus that smells like a wet third grader and is no longer well insulated. To this specific use of this product given the sparse factual information presented in the poop sheet, the sheep and I both say Baaaaaa. Hope this helps, Jack
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Old 12-23-2014, 08:27 PM   #28
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Thank you so much for all the information!! I have been reconsidering, thinking, researching like mad. I have given up on wool insulation. Thank you for saving me the pain. my friend told me to put 3M 4200 sealant in all seams up top and some caulking inside as well on the seams. This will prevent any leaks into the walls. I think I'm going to do this.

I was also thinking about how to prevent prevent the skin from sweating as much...someone suggested doing some latex paint inside on the ceiling, which may help with this factor...any ideas about this?

As of now the frame for the camper shell is built as well as the frame for the skylight which will go above the bathroom. We are going to caulk and rivet it down with some 3m 4200 UV resistant caulk this saturday when we get some clear skies. The frames look awesome.

I'm not sure how to post images with this new format...any help on that? I want to post up the frame photos I have.

Thanks all!!
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Old 12-28-2014, 04:01 AM   #29
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I like the wood, but most of the windows would have to go if you plan on being some place hot or cold. Too much energy would be lost through them if your trying to heat or cool your bus. Also the shelves at minimum would need a rail to keep what they are holding as you bounce down the road.
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Old 12-29-2014, 02:15 PM   #30
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There's a hole in my bus!

Kipin, I have decided to cover about 1/3 of the windows and make some very serious curtains for the rest of the time. I live in northern California, which is pretty moderate most of the year. I am not too concerned. We don't intend to drive her a lot, just park and stay and a few big road trips. I agree about the rail, the folks with that one in the photos are more of a park and stay kind of skoolie too.

We just cut out a 6x8 hole in the ceiling and mounted the frame for the camper shell with tons of rivets and Caulking. It is coming along really well. Getting the camper shell up there tomorrow! Can't wait. It is feeling so different and exciting already!

Next phase, insulation in ceiling!

check out the photos below.
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